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So, you’re going to go on the record as saying, against all science and common sense, that women show equal or less aversion to sexual signaling than men do.

If a man strips down naked in a highly populated area, everyone considers him a sexual predator. A safe space where there is no real fear to be had, women will show much more fear than men.

If a woman jumps out of the tree on a lone street in the darkness naked, the man might jump for a moment (not safe at all), and then decide one of two things: that this is a great blessing, or that the woman is emotionally disturbed. NEVER will the thought cross his mind that she is a sexual predator.

Thing is: both science and common sense refute you

They are not considered sexual predators because of the historical regard of women as physically weaker than men. Needless to say, that has changed in modern times. There are women athletes, particularly weightlifters and MMA fighters, who would challenge you to a few rounds to prove otherwise.

A couple of questions:

What percentage of women, say, between 18-30 years of age would you consider sexual predators?

You never did elaborate on why your rape theory didn’t apply to homosexuals, and in using that term I figure you mean both gays and lesbians. What about transgender?

Your views on this and the subconscious have already been noted. Could you please provide some links to external sources that corroborate your views?

Del Ivers:

I’m really not cherry picking here, this link is just the first non advertising credible link that I found.
Read a few of the replies to get an idea of the state of the art here:

quora.com/Is-it-true-that-t … onsciously

Homosexuals do not send no means yes signaling because they are not sex dimorphic to each other!!!

You’re other responses sound like a crazed feminist who simply states that women can do ANYTHING as well as a man! This is blatantly false!

Because men are sex dimorphic (meaning that the whole male sex is larger and stronger than the whole female sex), rape dimorphic (men are more threatening in a rape sense because of basic sex biology of sexual organs) and weapons and combat training dimorphic (men have almost all the weapons and also almost all the training), women have evolved an involuntary aversion reaction to male sexual signals, it’s built into their DNA! Women have no choice in this matter.

As for sexual abusers between 18-30, women prey upon children and teenagers, men from 18 to 30 prey upon anything that walks the earth! Men will even rape a rhinoscerous!

So here’s the deal:

Women cannot biologically do everything as good as a man, they just can’t do it. Sure, lots of things that men are better at are extremely shameful for the whole species, I hang my head low in shame just thinking of it.

But these are species facts, not opinions.

Are you saying that on average men only ever bang about 8 women? Like in a whole lifetime?

Mr. Reasonable wrote:

Are you saying that on average men only ever bang about 8 women? Like in a whole lifetime?

Ecmandu’s reply:

Yes. This isn’t to say that they don’t have sex tens of thousands of times in a lifetime (like most people), from those 8 average partners, just that a very broad base of the female sexual variety of number of partners is substantially higher than men.

I love that the part where he used shorthand without remembering the audiance. His shorthand was false. So he used false data because of his audience. In every generation men have more partners than women. Now there are certainly men who are excluded. But get him to produce the research to back up his ideas.

Likewise it can be said, anyone who claims to know exactly what the ‘subconscious’ is apart from a supposition simply does not have enough evidence for it. A second quote from Quora article: “The brain is massively parallel at a scale well beyond any computation system we have so far built.” True, and because we cannot measure that scale then one can only ‘loosely’ infer a discrete element, e.g., subconscious, but not to the point of a conclusion. With that in mind, then consider your previous statement: “Not a person like me, who has massive amounts of subconscious in my conscious mind.” If you truly believe that then you should write a paper or book on your rape theory and other strongly held views on women it and submit it to the scientific and psychological community for an assessment. But for the time being, you’re just pissing into a tornado.

I live in Las Vegas. If this were a poker game your ‘crazed feminist’ comment would be a ‘tell’ and chances are good that you’ve got a losing hand.

“Females get better grades at every educational level in every subject and have higher college graduation rates: They earn 57 percent of bachelor’s degrees, including 50 percent in science and engineering subjects, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.” source

"Men appear to be better at reading subtle vocal, visual, scent and other cues indicating their partner’s fidelity, concludes a study published in the journal Human Nature. The downside, said co-author Paul Andrews of Virginia Commonwealth University, is that that these cues aren’t always accurate, and men are more likely than women to falsely suspect cheating. Yet another study on cheating, published in the Journal of Marital and Family Therapy, found that men are more upset by sexual infidelity, and while women are more upset by emotional infidelity. Women, it should be mentioned, outperform men when identifying emotions, according to a study in the journal Neuropsychologia.source

If males and females were truly understood to be intellectual equals, things might change in schools, colleges and universities, industry and the workplace in general. As Hyde and her colleagues noted in 1990, “Where gender differences do exist, they are in critical areas. Problem solving is critical for success in many mathematics-related fields, such as engineering and physics.” They believe that well before high school, children should be taught essential problem-solving skills in conjunction with computation. The researchers also point to the quantitative portion of the Scholastic Aptitude Test, which may tap problem-solving skills that favor boys. The resulting scores are used in college admissions and scholarship decisions. Scientifically unsound gender stereotyping not only costs individuals, but society as a whole. source

The correct phrasing would be that women cannot do some things and vice versa. Is the professional fighter, Conor McGregor physically stronger than someone like Taylor Swift. Yes. But then the endurance and stamina for a fight and that of performing a 2 hours plus concert is a relative matter. I pointed out female athletes to show that what was traditionally regarded is not necessarily the case in modern times. And remember, not all men are in the shape of McGregor and others like him. For the majority of men who do not train as such then they would have as difficult a time competing with women athletes as they would with men athletes. So, some things women can’t do as effectively as men, but there are women who can do some things more effectively than men. In short, as time progresses blanket statements about women’s, and men’s, capabilities are becoming less valid.

Note: I’ve sent a brief description of your rape theory to persons at a university. I figure those who are involved in this research could offer their take on it. If received I will post their response.

For one, men and women have a 1:1 correspondence for sexual acts in the heterosexual sphere at 100%.

The numbers are skewed because of homosexual men!

If you count just male to female, you have to include bisexuality. Using this statistic, it’s well known by social scientists that the number one sexual fantasy among women is to be with another woman, much less than men fantasizing about men in the bisexual statistics.

So if you leave homosexuality out, women have more partners than men do.

When you look at straight heterosexuality, women do something called the “stratification of number of partners”, meaning that 80% of women receive all of their sexual variety from 2% of the male population. Men distribute more equitably than women, which causes their average lifetime counts to be lower.

I’ll get to del Ivers a bit later … entertaining a guest out of town.

I’ll just reply to this whole post with paraphrasing Steven pinker …

Men excel at the extremes, the dumbest people on earth will be men, but so will the smartest. Women excel at the median.

Your comments about scholastics does not contradict this.

As for the part about the subconscious mind, while the numbers can be different, there is no lack of consensus that there is the subliminal/subconscious/parasympathetic mind.

Additionally Del Ivers,

I just remembered one of the common answers that demonstrates the subliminal / subconscious / parasympathetic mind.

Most people have the experience of knowing that they know something, often called, “being on the tip of ones tongue”

Without a subconscious, we would know that we know it and in doing so, know it right away, without having to wait for an unconscious part of the brain to retrieve it.

You could argue that some people have better memories than others, however, this does not adequately describe this common instance, as they’ll either know it or forget that they knew it.

Hopefully that made sense.

I think the whole idea of using force is based on showing off how much some one is worth to you. There is no logic behind it just showing off like flowers.A mans violence is his appearance, this is also with you Ecmandu, the case.

I will on occasion say this to people who argue like you. If my mind acted in this world with your morality…

You really don’t want to know!

The thing is: I’m wired to the core to only derive pleasure from non zero sum translation of wealth.

So… you have nothing to fear from me.

My shadow side, what you preach that I should be, is ghengis kahn times a million.

People pay more attention to my shadow side, and for that, I find them pathetic.

I’m not that person anymore.

No different than others who could say the same about you. It’s a two-way street.

If you have changed, and you are no longer bound by such negative characteristics, then neither do other people, especially women, have to be bound by the negative characteristics you attribute to them. Or do your claims of exceptional evolutionary status exempt you from such comparisons?


re Subconscious

I’m being misunderstood here. Yes, women only have sex with men who act out. However, men don’t need to act out, men don’t need sex.

Both men and women are bound by the negative characteristics I attribute to them.

I’ll read your psychology today link in full when I get the time.

I’ll just note that psychological priming (assumes at its base that a subconscious exists) is proven and is a trillion dollar industry.

:smiley:
Go on an incel forum and make a topic of that. See what kind of responses you get.
Then again, you may find agreement in the Blackpill section.

Not according to many of your statements in this topic. For example, “Women don’t see the truth”. If you’re saying that men also don’t see the truth then where do you as a man see yourself in that equation apart from your claims of uniqueness?

Chia Pets, Pet Rocks and Mood Rings made a lot of money. Language itself is priming. EVOLUTION itself is priming. What’s your point?

There are professional magicians that make millions of dollars off of priming. It’s so exact a science that they live off of it… and that’s not even counting the trillion dollar industry of advertising.

It’s a man and a woman’s job to own their own shit.

If women can’t keep up with men (which they can’t), it’s the higher consciousness of the better man to not be a rapist.

As human beings, not just gender-specific, we end up owning whatever in terms of our existence. Mortality is not in the habit of prettily dressing things up, especially in the last lap, just so someone - regardless of gender - can dismiss the results of their actions.

Isn’t the fact that a woman’s physiology which is able to create and deliver a human being into existence enough of an indicator that women do more than merely, ‘keep up’?

Question: Considering your views, then to what extent are your courtesies? For example, in everyday life do your views as stated in this topic prevail in your conduct toward women or do you alternate between said views and things like being a ‘gentleman’, opening the door for them, etc.

Strangely enough, when you hate everyone, it actually makes you a pretty nice person. You’re under no “us vs. them” illusion.

It’s the people who hate some and admire others that you should worry about.

If I could know for a fact that I could kill and or torture someone and get away with it; I wouldn’t even bother.

Yeah, I’m sure someone like Genghis Khan was thought of as a, ‘nice dude’, by everyone. It also reminds me of a statement made by Kim Kardashian of all people when she was asked about people hating her. She replied that, ‘hate was the new love’. Yes, it can be strange.

Everyone dislikes some people and admires others. Thus we’re all worried about ourselves in some degree.

Well, I guess that’s a courtesy. :slight_smile:

I neither love or hate for I am relatively detached from everyone and that detachment makes me more free
However I could never torture anyone even if I could get away with it simply because I am not a psychopath