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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:56 am

But it is an act of utter nihilism -

and yet, what else can be expected in Paris, now?

No one is protecting the women there, so who can expect the Notre Dame herself to be safe?

Idiots.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:03 am

Im mostly surprised at how little illusion I have left about Paris and thus, Old Europe.

We are all going back to the rural values here.

We could blame Macron but the French chose him and out of what pool - that Hollandes record of worst president is so quickly broken - the cosmopolitan world is no more. France will go back to its roots, agriculture and unrest.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:13 am

They say that Greek statues and temples were or would have been painted.

Just saying. God is tough.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:39 pm

When it is rebuilt they should close the cathedral except for avowed Christians. Like they should close all temples in the world for tourists.

I dont know who has ruined Paris more, the tourists or the terrorists. But together they've done a fine job at it. Add to that neomarxist leadership and youve got a hellhole just like any other in all the dankest corners of the world.

Where was all the outrage when the vests blew up these nice shops in the city center? They weren't tourists attractions. But they were just as much Parisien. I knew then that Paris has been discarded by its population.

I think there is either the cellphone, or Paris, in this world.
Im betting Paris will outlast the cellphone. As the latter is on the verge of causing about a hundred million cancer deaths with 5G. It will only be a few decades before humans realize they can't sell much consumer electronics and face monitoring software to a heap of rotting meat.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:46 pm

Too many fake feelings around that place.

The reactions if the thing had collapsed whole would not have been much different. "Oh la la ,what a sad day for tourism".

Im gonna read some Celine.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:10 pm

No, it was sad.

The shops were sad, but those can be rebuilt far more easily. They weren't unique. The tragedy with the yellow vests was that they vandalized the Arc du Triomphe. Then I myself lost faith in the yellow vests.

Lot of sad things. The thing about sadness is that, more than any other emotion, it takes something from you. Or perhaps it is just the acceptance that something has already been taken from you.

The face of the people as they looked on at Notre Dame burning was not o la la. It was how I felt.

Perhaps Foucault was right, we are all prisoners in this world. I don't know. But, you know. The unforgiving minute. Gotta fill it.

Stay sharp, beware of those rural go-backers as they are filled with neo nazis. Not that they are any like threat to society, if they want to go to farms and become farmer crumodgeons, fascists have been doing that for millenia without hurting anyone. More for your mental health, I mean.

Paris lives. Cosmopolitanism lives. It is just a little asleep. The question used to be how to make Europe Europe. Now the question is how to overcome Europe. For Europe's sake no less than the new Cosmopolite. Do you know who they are? They like green Gucci suits.

Take care.

Fucking sadness. That bitch is propably more self righteous than any of the others. Which is why people like to make fun of sad people.

Maybe I'll become a farmer crumodgeon too. Enjoy the sun and the braying of donkeys. A hammock under a wodden frame holding up a tin roof. Watered down coffee that went cold as you filtered it. Infinity to stare at and own.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:00 pm

Excuse me but, talk about your own continent please.
Not about mine. Not to me.

Your attitude to Europe is part of the problem. Your ease, the ease you take with my interpreting continent. A rudeness that simply isn't in me where it concerns your continent.

That is what the problem is. Fucking non-Europeans with their fucking opinions about us.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:19 pm

Its offensive that you dare to be so chirpy about Paris.
Every Parisian I talk to says that the town is dead, civility is gone.
They move to Bordeaux, Aix, Clermont Ferrand, or abroad. Ive talked to numerous girls in Montreal who simply couldn't walk the street in Paris anyone and chose a life in Quebec.

Obviously that trend was going to continue. The Notre Dame is just the most famous Parisian woman. Now she's been raped too.
But its not the heart of Europe that the savages struck. Let them think that.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:27 pm

I can accede to 90% of what you said. Give em hell for us.

For Notre Dame, for the Arc, even if they weren't the hearts.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:29 pm

And you will never understand my own relationship to Paris. But you are forgiven, because you actually care. Anybody who's heart bled looking at that blaze is alright by me.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:35 pm

And you will never understand my own relationship to Paris.

Edit - then it is also your fight.

Id ask you to stop thinking about the European White Man as a problem. Thats what the shitsmearers want everyone to think.

It is not us who are sitting on all the worlds riches.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:55 pm

Alright this post has been here long enough.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:09 pm

That shit business is literal. Thats actually their means of spiritual warfare.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:18 pm

See this is why I was focusing on the cleanest part - the architecture and its realization, the masonry. Because even lifting even a sliver of an inch of the veil, and the filth of what causes this is so overwhelming that it is pointless to put it into words. "Sad"- it is nauseating dread. But this is precisely what we are up against. This is the very stuff of the ideology that is playing its flush here.

All that counts is the values contrasted here. Thats the equation that tells the future.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:27 pm

The reason the dread is nauseating is the passivity of ones own culture before it.

E.g. the wide spread reflex of calling the French heartland nazi. Even though that is where everything and the wine comes from.

France is, always has been, la Campagne. Paris reflects this, it enjoys the fruits of the land.

But current sadness in Paris has it denounce the land because it doesn't agree with German leadership. Therefore it is "nazi".

Not a nice irony to be locked inside of as a culture.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:34 pm

You made a deeply intelligent post to Capable the other day, identifying the Right directly with the Military, and treating Republicanism as - well the way you did.
All of our countries abolished military service. Holland did the very year I would have been called for service. It is very hard here to even imagine proper right wing politics in the west.
Vietnam really did a number on us. It was always puzzling to the Americans why Mao didn't make a big deal out of it. But he may just have seen that the destined failure of it was a promising seed of the Marxist revolution.
Marxism is the abolishing of power among humans, and giving it to a maelstrom of human-swallowing righteous ambition. It is a singularity.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:46 pm

Funny, my grandmother was quite the Maoist, and the word for grandmother is Oma. Not that funny. None of it is funny.
Imagine falling prey to the Cultural Revolution. Well, that is what is constantly the threat here. Hordes of the most malleable young people available, namely, the students, set out to simply destroy everything that reminds of the past and kill or imprison anyone who dares to value it.
It is true that a people must be somewhat feeble to allow this to happen to it.
The question: is this or that western culture as feeble as China was when Mao began to influence things? Different answers in different countries.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:55 pm

We are still in World War 1 - logical, a world war can't be resolved. We will always be in World War One.
The Great War. The World.

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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:23 pm

Thankfully a lot of French money has already been pledged.
And again, thankfully these master masons have stood the test. The structure is good.

This is all very significant.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:29 pm

Comment from RT:

"All these people were happily watching game of thrones on their big screen tvs right after seeing the news of Julian Assange arrest... Whatever happens to Europe, they deserve it."
https://www.rt.com/news/456755-paris-pr ... otre-dame/

See, this is not entirely without a point. Except it speaks only to the cosmopolitans - those who do indeed watch Game of Thrones and don't mind Assanges arrest. It doesn't speak to the people who just... are there, here, on the earf.
What speaks for us is clear. And if it isn't, I say thank you nature who likes to hide, thank you.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:51 pm

God likes to hide.
Or man just doesn't like to seek very much.
When he had to hunt and scavenge, he knew god in all sorts of ways.
When he farmed he knew the goddess. Thats not a past tense though.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:22 pm

And look, I am not a racist or as geno-ist, I am not talking about the nature of individuals. Its not a choice people are being given. What they are given is values. Then, as a result, they humanly exist. An animal isn't given values other than what is good for it. But given that humans have tools, and a space between "it" and "that" that says "how" that relates to it, and this how becomes a thing in itself, the it, so that the that becomes the whole world and thats not feasible. Communism is one man with a screwdriver facing the entire cosmos. Very beautiful. Existentially it isn't bad. But Socialism has all screws loose and no driver.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:36 pm

I'm not saying the Campagne is nazi. I would never. French wine is a religious article to me. I just mean that all the neo nazis, or many of them, probably the more serious ones (neo nazi in image, not the true nazis we have identified here) are doing this pillgrimage, taking up this ethos. That's all I'm saying, and it's a fact. I've looked into it. We are not the only ones that like France. But France is truly Great, and if her children, ramshackle bunch of snobish and reasonable degenerates that they are, are going to the fields, than that is alright.

I like the point you make about communism vs socialism. I agree, as you know. Nothing but love and respect there, along with radical enmity.

And I am not against the European white man. I quite like him. Or liked. These days, they just seem like a bunch of soft emos. except the women and some of the immigrants, some, who were the ones captured so well in those pictures in the breitbart article. People that understand the value of france. But it is as it must be I suppose, sons of victors tend to be soft.

This is a vast generalization and I make no apologies. They are still the sons and inheritors of France, and none, even I, can take that away. It's just sad, you know? The indolence. Well you do know.

Europe is great, truly great. One of the only and main goals of becoming super rich is to have houses in France, in Germany, in Austria. To walk shoulder to shoulder with the white European, never being one with them. We all have vast respect for what Europe is, which is shown best in the stones they laid on top of eachother. And their chocolateries and their corner stores that sell fresh fish and cheese.

This is why I am against flooding Europe with poor immigrants. We rather should work on making the world rich, and to do that America must become Great Again. It is not a cruelty of the Europeans, it is simply a preservation of one of those things for which one becomes rich. Any man, from the one with the most title-filled lineage to the son of a million generations of peasants.

That's what the money is FOR.

As for the subjective experience of Europe, of the Europeans, well, I do honestly believe that is a task of the Europeans. You are the inheritors. That, nothing can change.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:39 pm

I should add, it is only worth it if, as you walk there shoulder to shoulder with them, you are able to get their respect. That, too, is currency. At least the respect of the old schoolers.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby barbarianhorde » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:44 pm

A beautiful movie opening would be a boy who is faced with a choice; on a musky wooden table in a shed, two items are presented before him. A small set of carpeting tools on the one side and the Old Testament on the other.

On the theme of carpeting. As so many westerners have, I acquired an anima-relationship to the Notre Dame during the many years I intensely loved Paris, and around 2005 when Kanye came out I had started to take myself as a potential rapper and spent an exorbitant amount of energy on the Notre Dame, and the various goddesses and women she has come to be alive with. All this time though, I found the spire to stick out of her like a sore thumb. I wondered why the masons had put such an illogical element there. It takes the whole gargoyle story out of proportion, and thus out of context. Why do cathedrals beset with gargoyles? Thats the subtle story of Christianity, the feminine lineage, the stuff of rosicrucianism vs jesuitism, of masonry vs protocol, of adoration vs fascination, of secret vs obsession, blue vs red, France and Italy vs Spain and Germany, Jeanne D'Arc vs Lous XIV -

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