Goddamnit what the FUCK.
Whoever is responsible for this should be hanged.
I’m sure if it was one of the Parisian workers working on the renovation he will go to the gallows voluntarily.
Wait, that spire is gone? I hated that spire. It didn’t belong in the structure.
Heres my rule of masonry; any piece of a cathedral that doesn’t survive a fire is doesn’t belong in the structure.
Le Monde reports that the general structure is intact. If it weren’t that would have really been pathetic. Cathedrals are built to be fortresses, last bastions in case of a barbarian invasion.
it will smell better inside now for sure.
Dang man, that’s harsh.
They say the whole wooden frame will be gone. That was put together 700 years ago and had survived them all. This is a tragedy dog.
All the wooden shit that was inside? Did you ever go inside?
That’s Paris man. That’s downtown. Wtf.
I did go inside during Kanyes first album, and I didn’t like it. The cathedral itself has been a piece of my heart since I was there first when I was 8 with my dad… but Ive never been in a church that didn’t make me want to retch. Except in Jerusalem. That was just too active, Russian-Greek orthodoxy is not lethargic. Maybe it just that the wood in these places has long been used for some cold winter. But in all churches otherwise the lethargy of the sinfulness creeps into the wood. So much stench. I swear. It is harsh but fuck it, I really don’t like what goes on inside these churches at all. I wouldn’t mind if the idols crack and the gold melts and comes dripping into the stone and rests there as the pure mineral of god it is - beyond, what is divine there is only the masonry. Im a Bitter Sea kind of hardliner where it concerns holy forms.
But it is an act of utter nihilism -
and yet, what else can be expected in Paris, now?
No one is protecting the women there, so who can expect the Notre Dame herself to be safe?
Idiots.
Im mostly surprised at how little illusion I have left about Paris and thus, Old Europe.
We are all going back to the rural values here.
We could blame Macron but the French chose him and out of what pool - that Hollandes record of worst president is so quickly broken - the cosmopolitan world is no more. France will go back to its roots, agriculture and unrest.
They say that Greek statues and temples were or would have been painted.
Just saying. God is tough.
When it is rebuilt they should close the cathedral except for avowed Christians. Like they should close all temples in the world for tourists.
I dont know who has ruined Paris more, the tourists or the terrorists. But together they’ve done a fine job at it. Add to that neomarxist leadership and youve got a hellhole just like any other in all the dankest corners of the world.
Where was all the outrage when the vests blew up these nice shops in the city center? They weren’t tourists attractions. But they were just as much Parisien. I knew then that Paris has been discarded by its population.
I think there is either the cellphone, or Paris, in this world.
Im betting Paris will outlast the cellphone. As the latter is on the verge of causing about a hundred million cancer deaths with 5G. It will only be a few decades before humans realize they can’t sell much consumer electronics and face monitoring software to a heap of rotting meat.
Too many fake feelings around that place.
The reactions if the thing had collapsed whole would not have been much different. “Oh la la ,what a sad day for tourism”.
Im gonna read some Celine.
No, it was sad.
The shops were sad, but those can be rebuilt far more easily. They weren’t unique. The tragedy with the yellow vests was that they vandalized the Arc du Triomphe. Then I myself lost faith in the yellow vests.
Lot of sad things. The thing about sadness is that, more than any other emotion, it takes something from you. Or perhaps it is just the acceptance that something has already been taken from you.
The face of the people as they looked on at Notre Dame burning was not o la la. It was how I felt.
Perhaps Foucault was right, we are all prisoners in this world. I don’t know. But, you know. The unforgiving minute. Gotta fill it.
Stay sharp, beware of those rural go-backers as they are filled with neo nazis. Not that they are any like threat to society, if they want to go to farms and become farmer crumodgeons, fascists have been doing that for millenia without hurting anyone. More for your mental health, I mean.
Paris lives. Cosmopolitanism lives. It is just a little asleep. The question used to be how to make Europe Europe. Now the question is how to overcome Europe. For Europe’s sake no less than the new Cosmopolite. Do you know who they are? They like green Gucci suits.
Take care.
Fucking sadness. That bitch is propably more self righteous than any of the others. Which is why people like to make fun of sad people.
Maybe I’ll become a farmer crumodgeon too. Enjoy the sun and the braying of donkeys. A hammock under a wodden frame holding up a tin roof. Watered down coffee that went cold as you filtered it. Infinity to stare at and own.
Excuse me but, talk about your own continent please.
Not about mine. Not to me.
Your attitude to Europe is part of the problem. Your ease, the ease you take with my interpreting continent. A rudeness that simply isn’t in me where it concerns your continent.
That is what the problem is. Fucking non-Europeans with their fucking opinions about us.
Its offensive that you dare to be so chirpy about Paris.
Every Parisian I talk to says that the town is dead, civility is gone.
They move to Bordeaux, Aix, Clermont Ferrand, or abroad. Ive talked to numerous girls in Montreal who simply couldn’t walk the street in Paris anyone and chose a life in Quebec.
Obviously that trend was going to continue. The Notre Dame is just the most famous Parisian woman. Now she’s been raped too.
But its not the heart of Europe that the savages struck. Let them think that.
I can accede to 90% of what you said. Give em hell for us.
For Notre Dame, for the Arc, even if they weren’t the hearts.
And you will never understand my own relationship to Paris. But you are forgiven, because you actually care. Anybody who’s heart bled looking at that blaze is alright by me.
Edit - then it is also your fight.
Id ask you to stop thinking about the European White Man as a problem. Thats what the shitsmearers want everyone to think.
It is not us who are sitting on all the worlds riches.
Alright this post has been here long enough.
That shit business is literal. Thats actually their means of spiritual warfare.
See this is why I was focusing on the cleanest part - the architecture and its realization, the masonry. Because even lifting even a sliver of an inch of the veil, and the filth of what causes this is so overwhelming that it is pointless to put it into words. “Sad”- it is nauseating dread. But this is precisely what we are up against. This is the very stuff of the ideology that is playing its flush here.
All that counts is the values contrasted here. Thats the equation that tells the future.
The reason the dread is nauseating is the passivity of ones own culture before it.
E.g. the wide spread reflex of calling the French heartland nazi. Even though that is where everything and the wine comes from.
France is, always has been, la Campagne. Paris reflects this, it enjoys the fruits of the land.
But current sadness in Paris has it denounce the land because it doesn’t agree with German leadership. Therefore it is “nazi”.
Not a nice irony to be locked inside of as a culture.