Why We Don't Like You Anymore

If philosophical, um, dudes, and dudettes, werent such fucking moralizing pansies they could actually take a stake in this conquest.

Thats what has always frustrated me. All this time since 2006 Ive been on about getting something off the ground. But even when it works, people are like “uhhh like, this person is actually, um, doing something, what an asshole, lets gang up and make it absolutely clear that philosophy is really dumb and impotent”.

Phuckeurz.

One thing any conquest begins with is Loyalty.
That you have a bunch of people who have it in their hearts to not just be worried about how they look, to each other, from second to second.

People with Heart, who know they are winning no matter what they undertake. Then, they might lose here and there. But given as theyre so winning they actually take great lessons from any lost bout. And get back up and start winning again.
If youve got a bunch of such people together, you can get anywhere.

But… philosophy, apparently, is still only about vainglorious bonsai climbers who debate things like “parbleu but if I say this and then this have I really said the inverse-reverse of what you just said that I said?”

Lol no, I’ve given up on loyalty. But that’s another thing capitalism provides for. It gives solid things to replace it, the red-faced smiles of whisky chugging businessmen in country-clubs. You can’t call it loyalty, but it sure ain’t fragile.

In fact, loyalty is one of the things anti-capitalists crave for and cry about. They miss the old state of affairs where filiation was imposed by the sword and represented by a sigul. There is no “we have an understanding” in communism. Understanding itself is an enemy. Reasonableness is the enemy.

Money talks. That is the only law. That’s how a fourth generation descendant of slaves can be a magnate.

Capitalism is just a lot more fun, that’s the real argument for it.

Youve got the country club fellows wrong.
The country club stands for loyalty.

See, this is were it started. A few blokes deciding to be loyal to each other. Happened under a tree. The stockmarket was born.

That money talks isn’t the question or the explanation for how this dude GOT his money.

I guess fair enough to divide Communists up in American Communists and Eurasian ones. What you say would apply in America. Here, reason and Reasonableness is pretty much what Communism stood for. I.e. against fascism and against the premodern feudalism that then was Capitalism.

Shit is complex dogg-O.

This is how money started, currency. It took a few men of means deciding they’d honour some agreement between them. Only then could some economic mechanism appear and seduce less-loyal slobsabitches into the loop.

Shit mayne. Gotta think these things through to the first scheme.

Stands for loyalty? Watch one of them go broke, see how fast the others forget about him.

Under that tree, in New York I presume you mean, that was the exact opposite. The agreement that loyalty was both impossible and silly. That was what we call an understanding.

And, unless you mean the USSR was American communism, I do hope you are joking. And yes, prior to 1900 or so capitalism as we know it was still in its infancy, still very much attached to old ways of doing things. But the germs for the destruction of those ways was embedded, and people in charge were more aware of that than you might believe.

Only reason kings made use of capitalists, like the Dutch slave traders and public companies, or Italian adventurers, was the same reason capitalism was to prevail in the end: the devastating edge it gave them against other kings. They tried to keep as much of a leash on it as they could, but even then they knew it wouldn’t last. But it was preferable for them all to perish than for a rival to prevail.

And perish they did, son. Perish they did.

You’re spinning myhs. The Dutch King? Who might that have been?

And you mean watch them force government to bail out their bankrupted friends? I did watch.

Don’t cha know if one of them falls they all feel the cold breeze.

What prevailed was Science.

Capitalism as a means of subjugation backward hordes is just the long arm of science.

Just generally brighter and more ballsy people prevailed.

And when you say Eurasian, I hope you are not including the middle East.

Let’s look at the surviving USSR satellites: Iran and Siria. Let’s look at some of the Republican satellites: Egypt and Iraq. Well Iraq was later cannibalized by retarded Neocons, but was the absolute image of sanity and enlightenment when compared to Siria and Iran. Lybia is a weird outlier there. Communism did seem to suit it better than the alternative. But one wonders what might have happened if a staunch republican had taken over there.

As for the Islamist fascists, those are all nazis and by extention communists. Proletarian revolts against capitalism.

“Don’t cha know if one of them falls they all feel the cold breeze.”

Even though what you are describing here is a half-state half-business corporatist monster with a truly healthy dose of socialism injected before that collapse happened, that a cold breeze should have to be held as a reason to stick together already speaks of an understanding and against any such thing as loyalty.

Dutch corporations did not work for Republican or Democratic governments, now dzzid they?

And anyway, who profited from slave trade carried out by capitalists in politics? Other than, ultimately, capitalists? King of Spain comes to mind. Queen of England there also… Shit IS complex dog. But not THAT complex.

No dude. Syria was like a less hellish Iraq.
And Iran stands on 4000 years of tradition and went through several completely differing leaderships in the 20th century.

It’s France that owns the Khomeini revolution, they flew him in straight from the Sorbonne.

Jeezus.
A lifetime of study of the 80 year war 's in order.

Do I hear someone say “should”?
You lost the argument right there gringo.

I think I’ve unmasked you as an ideologue.
Where Capitalism is just the way things are in science-land.

No Capitalism without the Archimedes-Newton lineage.
The way things Be. The ontological tyranny.

“I don’t know what it is, but it’s out there, and it’s for sale.”

Capitalissimo.

“Our loyal investors have granted us the opportunity…”
-Capitalissimo

"You dont know what this is? Wel sirree/little lady, thasts exactly why you need one!
-Capitalissimo

Shit is brutal. Going door to door to create markets before any desire to consume exists.

Evolution works the same way. Why do you think animals have shapes, at all?

But let me beware of going to deep.

Well here’s the thing, your argument so far is “I prefer communism.” I know it’s rhetorical in the sense I’m pretty convinced you prefer capitalism.

When you put it that way, I can only say “cool dog, see you out there.”

“Good to know there are gentlemen on the other side.”

Mask me, unmask me, have your fun. It’s what everybody else here has been doing, not really a game I find very interesting. But by all means.