Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

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Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:24 am

He actually tells you what he wants to do and how.

For all of the soft-headed liberals', let's call them, hate for "lying politicians," the truth is that they love people like Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden because the question exists for them: what are they going to do?

Like a movie.
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Re: Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:31 am

Not, obviously, because they have any understanding or interest in communism.

"No no, it's socialism!"

Yeah, yeah. I thought the same until I saw them all to the man defend the Venezuelan communists. You may not know, but they do.

I'll give you, Biden isn't a communist. He's just a blazing idiot.
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Re: Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:37 am

I was asking my girl the other day, why is it that you first worlders' hearts bleed for the poor Mexicans (third worlders) and how bad everything is in the third world, how much you want to fix it, obviously implying that it is very good in the first world and very bad in the third world, but then somehow manage to get offended when we mock y'all for lack of malice? We do it with kind hearts, by the way. Lovingly. It always startles me that the response might be offense. Evidently, in the part of the world where everything sucks, you would need and naturally develop malice. It is a compliment. But no.

They don't have the cake or eat it either.
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Re: Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:39 am

Not rednecks or black people, though. Or hustlers.

Only the bleeding hearts.
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Re: Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:43 am

If I'm honest, I count rednecks and black people and hustlers, Trump being an exceptional hustler, among the third world's number.

There used to be a third kind. Generationally rich republicans. They actually appreciated their position within the first world. And led actually effectual philanthropic initiatives, like the Rockefeller foundation which literally avoided a mass starvation in Mexico. By inventing wheat tortillas. It's a long story.
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Re: Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:45 am

All them's sons got mind raped in University though.
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Re: Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:54 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:He actually tells you what he wants to do and how.

For all of the soft-headed liberals', let's call them, hate for "lying politicians," the truth is that they love people like Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden because the question exists for them: what are they going to do?

Like a movie.


Not that it's a trick that hustlers don't know. It's called "plausible deniability."

Accept your situation or move to fucking Mexico you two-faced weasels!
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Re: Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:39 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:He actually tells you what he wants to do and how.
Well, he says a lot of stuff, and yes, how he might do it, but then...
One can hope he gets around to 9/11.
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Re: Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Gloominary » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:40 pm

But what has Trump accomplished thus far?

Almost 0.

It's actually been a rather uneventful presidency.

A lot of pomp, a lot of rhetoric, but few, if any significant shifts in policy.

And the agenda continues, unabated...
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Re: Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Gloominary » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:50 pm

Assuming your elections aren't totally rigged, you may as well start voting for 3rd party and independent candidates, it's not as if you've anything to lose.
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Re: Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:42 pm

Gloominary wrote:But what has Trump accomplished thus far?

Almost 0.

It's actually been a rather uneventful presidency.

A lot of pomp, a lot of rhetoric, but few, if any significant shifts in policy.

And the agenda continues, unabated...

I agree. I've said this to Trump haters and Trump lovers both. Not much has happened. I mean Obama extended the wall on the border to Mexico and so did Bush. They just never said they'd build one the whole way. This is a huge moral difference. I mean, both lovers and haters should be embarrassed by their enthusiasm over seeing this as distinguishing Trump in some way. I am sure the rich are getting richer and corporations have less obstacles by the end of his term. Maybe he will start a way, putting him in Bush's league, however you view that league. A lot of sound and fury....
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Re: Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Meno_ » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:25 pm

How about the unprecedented 20+ trillion dollar deficit to finance the ultra rich economic mistakes and to boot rewarding them with equally outrageous bonuses?
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Re: Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Meno_ » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:33 pm

Gloominary wrote:But what has Trump accomplished thus far?

Almost 0.




It's actually been a rather uneventful presidency.

A lot of pomp, a lot of rhetoric, but few, if any significant shifts in policy.

And the agenda continues, unabated...



Actually his hitting China for graft, technology theft, practice of unfair trade, of bringing in wealthy pregnant women to prestige birth of their children, and not paying hospital costs-alleging paupery, if civil rights abuses were not enough, how about the thousands of American lives lost in Vietnam as cost for Chinese dominance in South East Asia?

For that alone he should get an Academy Award if not the Nobel Peace Prize, even if tangentially with the Republican Party's hidden agenda , which really may be characterized as a Think-tank CIA covert operational agenda.
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Re: Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:54 pm

Meno_ wrote:How about the unprecedented 20+ trillion dollar deficit to finance the ultra rich economic mistakes and to boot rewarding them with equally outrageous bonuses?
I believe it is one trillion plus. And I find it hard to believe he is spending more than Bush did with his two full out local wars. Which doesn't mean he's peachy at all, just that even the Bushites act like he is destroying everything. I still see him not competing with the Bushes. Not competing with Clintons' passing or repealiing, whatever it was, of the Glass Speagal act leading to 2008.
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Re: Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Gloominary » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:02 am

Karpel Tunnel wrote:
Gloominary wrote:But what has Trump accomplished thus far?

Almost 0.

It's actually been a rather uneventful presidency.

A lot of pomp, a lot of rhetoric, but few, if any significant shifts in policy.

And the agenda continues, unabated...

I agree. I've said this to Trump haters and Trump lovers both. Not much has happened. I mean Obama extended the wall on the border to Mexico and so did Bush. They just never said they'd build one the whole way. This is a huge moral difference. I mean, both lovers and haters should be embarrassed by their enthusiasm over seeing this as distinguishing Trump in some way. I am sure the rich are getting richer and corporations have less obstacles by the end of his term. Maybe he will start a way, putting him in Bush's league, however you view that league. A lot of sound and fury....

Yup, the left/right media blows him up into this devil/savior figure, when really he's just another empty suit, a wall street puppet.
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Re: Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Meno_ » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:12 am

Karpel Tunnel wrote:
Meno_ wrote:How about the unprecedented 20+ trillion dollar deficit to finance the ultra rich economic mistakes and to boot rewarding them with equally outrageous bonuses?
I believe it is one trillion plus. And I find it hard to believe he is spending more than Bush did with his two full out local wars. Which doesn't mean he's peachy at all, just that even the Bushites act like he is destroying everything. I still see him not competing with the Bushes. Not competing with Clintons' passing or repealiing, whatever it was, of the Glass Speagal act leading to 2008.



In 2 years 1 trillion upping total to above 20 trillion, sure Bush did it in 4 years and Reagan as well, but Reagan went for two terms . I can't remember the actual figures but Trump's allocation is the matter of contention here.
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Re: Another Reason People Are Terrified of Trump

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:37 am

Gloominary wrote:Yup, the left/right media blows him up into this devil/savior figure, when really he's just another empty suit, a wall street puppet.
I can’t quite get a bead on him. Sometimes it seems like he is an outsider. In this model: He’s a rich guy, with a lot of things in common with the elites who runs things, and the general plans of Wall St., but he not on board with the precise agenda and that’s why the media, pushed by the elites gave him so much trouble. Once he was in they managed to channel him, to moving from escalating the tensions with Putin, to now restarting the arms race, to making him intervene in Syria, which he was against and so on. IOW he’s a lot like their people, but he’s just some rich guy. He’s not down with the plan, and with little love for regular humans, went about stuff in ways that while in the end will benefit primarily the rich and Wall st., were not part of the plan.
Or…
He is and always has been a part of the elite controllers, but he’s from a particularly aggressive faction. So many others, who are more smiley, and secret power movers, like Hilary, got pissed off that he was coming in.
I mean, I don’t think these people like each other. There are factions and snarling, but they share a disdain for people outside their parasitical rapacious group. And he was a bit of a dark horse in their jockeying for power.
Either way, controlled by the elites into fitting their agenda or really being simply a part of it, his policies in Syria, in relation to Israel and Wall St., his administrations design on Iran, and the directions he is moving economic policy and the noises he makes in relation to Venezuala are more and more making the issue moot for me.
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