Women cannot be "Strong" and VICTIMS at the same time...

You obviously do not know much about the victims of sexual attacks. Surprisingly, some victims are decent women going about their own businesss… on their way to work, shopping, mundane things such as this. You paint the picture that all women who experience rape asked for it because of their drunken state or choice of clothes.

To be attacked when you think you are not vulnerable, no dark street, broad daylight, is a very scary experience and the only way out of it is to fight back. A kick in the balls will do it if you are strategically placed, if not keep on struggling until you free yourself and run, run as fast as you can.

Most important. Report it!

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Arcturus you are surely thoughtful!

I think we agree about basic human dignities and responsibilities!

As a man I think falsely accusing a man of rape is worse than beating him unconscious, it is the same as rape to me. Destroying everything that is sweet and innocent and sacred to him. Now it has been proven that Ford either lied or hallucinated. Watch the Susan Collins speech!!! THAT is a WOMAN.

You don’t have the right to rape your wife, or girlfriend, anymore than you have the right to break into your friends house and take, or use his things.

barbarianhorde,

Thank you, barbarianhorde.

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…and what of the woman who has been raped and is falsely accused of lying about it, the truth being swept under the carpet? Can you even begin to imagine the hell which she is in in those moments?

How often were men, I would say especially men, sent to jail and been there for years because it appeared that they were guilty. People absolutely knew that they were guilty based on the so-called evidence or more to the point the lack of evidence.

I can agree with your statement though. It has to be one of the most terrible places to be in, IF Cavanaugh is innocent.

It does not look as if it has all been destroyed for him since he has been sworn in but there will always be questions about his innocence or guilt and many of the Democrats are not finished with him yet. Ultimately, no matter what though, he has the power and the control within his own personal life, to kind of smooth things over with his family, to show his children his best Self, to help them to understand things with love, intelligence and caring.

I do not think that that has actually been proven unless I have missed something. I am not saying that that cannot be the case but I do not think that it has been proven. SHOW ME THE MONEY, barbarianhorde.

I do recall a short excerpt, while listening to the news, of Dr. Ford’s testimony. I did not quite get what she was saying ~ it seemed to me to be about some mythological creature but I may be wrong in what I heard. lol. She had her head down as though she was speaking to no one in particular. She did seem to be quite out of it but any reasonable human being could understand why, given the circumstances, unless they already had it in their mind that she had to be guilty and were quite willing to burn her at the stake, so to speak.

I am going to find her testimony somewhere and listen to it. Did you happen to listen to her testimony or are you basing her guilt on the perceptions and projections of others? I am not saying that you are ~ only asking.

I will get back to you at some point.

Inquiry is fatal to certainty.
Will Durant

Hey Arcturus,

Yes, I was actually framed and taken for guilty of battery for two years. A woman accused me because I had raised my voice against her when she had thrashed my parents house. Im not as well spoken as she so I lost out. Also it seemed a man has no rights when he is accused by a woman. I won’t tell you everything but yeah, I know what these things feel like, I call that evil. It was cleared up but after ruining everything for me. She wasn’t punished for the false claim.

It ruined years of my life and I lost most of my friends and family.

But indeed Kavanaugh is in a better position now that he has been sworn in. I don’t feel sorry for him now. Im very happy for the USA and the world.

I saw the Ford testimony and my first impression was the same as everyone elses, that she was honest. Then I watched a little bit over and over and over when I recognized acting techniques. She is very brilliant, I have no questions about this. But I think she uses it for evil. So much doesn’t add up. All the people she said were at the party have no memory, nor does her best friend, of any such incident. Thats only the tip of the iceberg.

Ive got some reading for you if you’re interested in my side. Thanks for your patient reply.

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barbarianhorde

I am sorry that that happened to you. A man has as many rights as does a woman. Perhaps a man ought to have only as many rights as he would deign to give a woman. Then perhaps we might all learn something.

Did you have a lawyer? Could you sue her in civil court?
May I ask you how it was cleared up ~ what you mean by that ~ but you do not have to respond. I hope that, for the most part at least, you have managed to be healed and to let go of it. I do not necessarily believe in that thing called karma but I think that at some point the woman will reap the consequences, if she has not already, of what she has done to you, due to her behavior and character.

Have some of those family members and friends returned to you or are finished with them?

I suppose so. I wonder though if he actually feels that way. I can still feel sorry for him IF he is innocent but how can I since I cannot know.
Why are you happy for the USA and the world? Are we and it perfect and complete and is all right with the world? I do not know about that!

The one thing which did surprise me that I heard during the news was of her best friend saying that she never knew this. She was never told this by Ford. Of course, I can understand how a young girl might not depending on the relationship with her best friend, how she viewed her, how she viewed herself. Relationships are complex as are human beings. We cannot really know how someone might react. Shame and even guilt for what she may feel responsible for even though SHE DID NOT ASK FOR IT, even though SHE DID WANT WANT IT…if THAT WAS THE CASE. We always seem to assume that others would act and react in the same way we would.

Did she agree to a polygraph test? I remember that Cavanaugh was asked and I think he said that he would go along with whatever they wanted but I also think that he hesitated and I could see that he was not into doing it unless I mis-read him.

All the people at the party having no memory…where do you go with something like this? Maybe many of them were drunk, maybe also lying. Quien sabe?

I will read it. My hope though is that the real guilty party gets found out.

What does that mean? Why are we still talking as if women don’t have equal rights? It pains me to see this. When are women going to make use of these rights to show where they can do better than men? I haven’t seen any improvement in empathy or responsibility the world since women got equal rights, have you? Wealth only has concentrated in the hands of fewer people in any case. Its not become fairer in the least.

Thats very American. I cant go into it like that.

Well sure I wouldn’t want to trade places. Someone who does that must be in dulling pain.

Yes, thank god my closest family and friends returned. They all were very surprised when they finally let me talk. Now I have some admiration, quite a bit actually, for how I pulled through.

If we could only be happy if we were perfect and complete Id never have one happy second in my life.
No, I am happy that we didn’t send the planet into nuclear winter. You know the story. I love Trump. I think he saved the day. Lets maybe not discuss that here though its endless.

I gotta say no one asks to be born either, life is painful for everyone and a lot of people take being beaten and trapped for granted from birth, this is why we have others to support us and make sense. The sex slaves on the markets of Libya which was Hillarys proud wardeed (she actually was proud of that coup on tv) cant go to therapy, they will never make it out alive likely.

Im not sure if she did.

Just make sure you apply the same skepticism to each party.

I think thats already found out, the dnc who doctored the whole case to become public right?
So you cant vote for that party and not be in on this.
I think all people so also women and maybe women especially should try not to be seduced by a party that made the first modern slave market possible.
And thats a fact Arcturus. That one is proven beyond any doubt.

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Every man and woman who was in the same movement with her should think twice really, don’t you think?

Opening statement and already retarded.

You can be strong and weak in different ways. Obviously.
Some of the best computer scientists are weak weight lifters.
Some of the best marathon runners can’t handle a drink like the best of them.

You can be “strong willed” at dealing with physical oppression when you are weak physically, like some women.

The thread title sounds snappy and is designed to fool people into a false dichotomy, if they are lazy and/or weak thinkers.

What a retarded sentiment. Not that I expected more from you.

How about instead everybody has to earn their rights, so if women want the same rights as men, they have to defeat men in conflict. Of course, if they do, they could take more rights.

This would mean people would have to demonstrate competence and worthiness, instead of merely declaring it without having to back it up with action. Just asking to be given things is parasitic.

Urwrong you sound like you have mommy issues with all that cringey fantasizing about “strong noble” women. It’s also homosexual, wanting women to be like men. Nobility is exclusive to men. Women are the sex that evolved to submit to whomever they perceive as most dominant and have their holes filled with cock. While you’re fantasizing how they’re pure and strong and noble they’re fantasizing about having a 10 inch cock shoved in their mouth.

The solution isn’t to try and make women more like men, like you and other feminists try to.

He’s right, no woman could, for example, write a post as noble as this one by thatsnot. Nor one with as much insight into women.

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Yes, great strategy too. To lower the object of their desire in value so they feel they deserve it, in the meantime agreeing with lowering themselves in value by desiring what they define as a piece of trash. So smart.
Other guys take anther approach. They’ll admire a woman and still act like they deserve her, so the woman concludes that they think very highly of themselves.

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True. Women can’t even live up to the low standards that I’ve set for them.

And sadly, that does work. Probably not so often in thatsnot’s crass form, but thinking like that and having that attitude actually seems to be a good game. What a sad state of affairs. I

I just flipped between this and Ecmandu’s thread about all women being evil. There seem to be a number of people of both sexes who take such a dim view of the opposite sex life must be hell.

It must be a relief to have finally given up finding love.

I’m not talking about love, imbecile. I was responding to you and talking about nobility - the low standards I set with my post.

Sure, I got that you were talking about nobility. And when doing that you talked about what women were like. And then you made it clear that even then you were not judging women, in general, harshly enough. One can deduce things from those statements. You must know, given what you think about women in general, that certain things are not possible.

Plus our form of love was actually invented as a nobility, by the folks from Languedoc.

I think Donald Trumps daughter is noble in the extreme. She lives for her Fathers House and is the jewel in it. And her fathers house is now America and thus the West. I agree not many women are anywhere near that class.

Yes I noticed this as well. I would see ads and commercials saying “We are Strong”. And women fighting punching bags, talking about how strong women are. Yet the music in the background, was always feminist sounding piano music. And there was a cognitive disconnect. Strength is supposed to be shown not told. Strong people don’t have to convince you they are strong. They don’t care about whether you believe they are strong. They just drive past you with their loud rock and roll music. And I heard no rock and roll in any of these commercials.