barbarianhorde
No, I do not and I have no idea how or why you would think that.
We are all responsible for our own actions ~ that is, if we have a conscience and think humanely of consequences.
True. Are they being deliberately sexually provocative to control and get attention?
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I can agree with this but I also feel that it is also up to the other party to protect their self. If it is a young girl or guy, they haven’t learned so much at that time to control their passions or their need to not give into that attention or sexual control.
I would not deny that. But let us say that that person, a female, is raped, because of her behavior. Granted, her behavior CONTRIBUTED to the outcome but would you say that she was just asking to be raped, let us say, literally asking to be raped, and that she deserved it?
I do not think that I am being so naive here to think that if there were other types of men there at that party, other types of INDIVIDUALS there, it might not have come down to that - no matter how drunk both sides were. Some men or guys could just not do that - they would find the discipline and inner strength to hold back. There are certain types of individuals in a lynching mob who would scream "Hang him, hang him, but there are other types, to be sure, who would be incapable of doing such a thing.
Opinion is not necessarily truth. How do you come by that conclusion?
I cannot make that judgment either way. I did not see any of her testimony but I went home early and I saw all of Cavanaugh’s. Frankly, I do not know what to think and the waters are so muddied now. What you say may be true but for a woman to put herself through all of that testimony, through all of that…I cannot say.
I watched Cavanaugh. I listened to what his friends said about him and the 36 I believe letters from his women friends who had known him for quite some time.
I watched his behavior carefully and I still cannot determine if another man, judge, under those circumstances might have acted differently. He was of course fighting for his life basically, his future and he was being attacked. If he is innocent, I can feel great compassion for him and if he is guilty of what they assumed him of, then he cannot get that chair and depending on the findings…well…
People do act differently under the same circumstances. We respond and react differently. I could see his belligerence clearly on his face, I saw and heard how he continued to impress and show himself as he was very young, the things he did, his volunteer work. At times it seemed to me that he was quite over the top with it but could that be the desperate attempt of an innocent man or a guilty man? Then he made the comment to the woman, asking her if she forgot things or something like that, when she was drunk. That was crude to me, considering that she didn’t drink - she had told him that her father was an alcoholic. Could that be another side to him that had been left unrevealed, dregs from his past.
There were times when I felt that he might be guilty* but feelings and intuition are faulty. I just do not know how any woman could put herself through something like that unless she was insane. Many of those women who came forward on the MeToo did not have the exposure which she had. I think that to just dismiss her comes from a place of wanting to believe she lied about everyting and sweeping it all under the carpet.
The same goes for him.
The whole thing did become like some kind of a witchhunt or McCarthyism.
Is it possible that she was a pawn of some of the Democrats? Who knows. I do not think that we will ever really get at the truth of it without real evidence - and hearsay is not evidence. Both sides paint a different picture of him.