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Postby Guide » Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:45 am

Should one despise the stupid?
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Re: and so

Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:21 am

No.
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Re: and so

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:55 pm

Guide wrote:Should one despise the stupid?

I don't think it really makes sense to mix shoulds with emotions, but it certainly seems both human and rational to despite stupid people in certain contexts.
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Re: and so

Postby Guide » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:24 pm

However, what if prejudice and personal interest were left aside, and we had only reason to work with, but we admitted that learning something new could change our view? For instance, most people regard Meno as an utter moron, but, they might not know her true works, which lay hidden under the sea, for the time being, the result of an outing to the Mediterranean where the pleasure yacht sunk.
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Re: and so

Postby Pandora » Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:20 am

One should be jealous, for they hold the secret to happiness.
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Re: and so

Postby Guide » Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:53 am

Lack of awareness is not worthy. Even if it had in it no pain. You sound to wish to want to be in nirvana. However, philosophy is something else.

One can enjoy suffering, anyway. So your answer is twice lazy as a shrunken pig brain.

Even though, and moreso because, the group honors your pathetic shortcomings in that they make the attempt ostensibly.

(PS the "critique", or thoughtlessness, of Ronell is bunk, since it presupposes the intelligent as measure)
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Re: and so

Postby Pandora » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:08 am

Indeed, my answer did not give due credit to the effort you put into your question. My apologies.
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Re: and so

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:01 pm

Guide wrote:However, what if prejudice and personal interest were left aside, and we had only reason to work with, but we admitted that learning something new could change our view? For instance, most people regard Meno as an utter moron, but, they might not know her true works, which lay hidden under the sea, for the time being, the result of an outing to the Mediterranean where the pleasure yacht sunk.
If you can leave Meno aside and reword this in a general way. I don't know what you are trying to say. I ask you to set aside Meno because I do not read her posts. I tried, I could not understand them.
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Re: and so

Postby Jakob » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:41 am

Meno is a guy, no?

His poetic drunk style seems masculine.
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Re: and so

Postby Arcturus Descending » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:16 pm

Jakob wrote:Meno is a guy, no?

His poetic drunk style seems masculine.


Yes, he is, Jakob ~ please do not follow the pathetic Herd which maligns him.
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Re: and so

Postby Arcturus Descending » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:20 pm

Guide wrote:Should one despise the stupid?


You need to give a more concise picture of what You mean by *stupid*?
"Look closely. The beautiful may be small."


"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."


“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”

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Re: and so

Postby Gloominary » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:25 am

Guide wrote:Should one despise the stupid?

Only if their stupidity endangers others, and/or they've deluded themselves into believing they're much smarter than they are.
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Re: and so

Postby Arcturus Descending » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:55 pm

Is stupidity, in a sense, like beauty and truth ~ in that it can be in the eyes of the beholder?
No, I am NOT putting them within the same category.
"Look closely. The beautiful may be small."


"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."


“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”

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Re: and so

Postby encode_decode » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:29 pm

Gloominary wrote:
Guide wrote:Should one despise the stupid?

Only if their stupidity endangers others, and/or they've deluded themselves into believing they're much smarter than they are.

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Re: and so

Postby encode_decode » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:33 pm

Arcturus Descending wrote:Is stupidity, in a sense, like beauty and truth ~ in that it can be in the eyes of the beholder?

Of course . . .

Arcturus Descending wrote:No, I am NOT putting them within the same category.

. . . there is no reason why somebody could not put them within the same category . . .
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