The stakes are not infinite and death is the answer not morality
I can only pay attention while I am still alive and before eternal non consciousness occurs
I gave you the proof through contradiction, and you’re plugging your ears saying “I can’t hear you!”
And you’re projecting states to me that aren’t true, I’ve tried harder than most to try to destroy existence… I learned the hard way… existence doesn’t get destroyed. You don’t think I was you at one point? Search deep in your heart. Why don’t you then just commit not only suicide but destroy the earth…
Because you know like I do that we never really die.
If you never existed you were never born
Death is just a transition between states
And states are not eternal non consciousness.
keeps holding your hand
No but every thing changes over time and the most obvious change is that from life to death
My death will only destroy me not existence which will carry on being long after I have gone
still holding your hand
Continuity of consciousness is your existence, should it ever cease to exist by time travelers in the past or a death in the infinite future poof you couldn’t be, right now.
I know this is hard for you
Death is the state of eternal non consciousness
No need to hold my hand once I am dead
Yes it is. And no, it doesn’t occur… just like nothing at all doesn’t occur. In your panic, you’re rambling and clawing like a psychotic.
Continuity of consciousness and time travellers in the past are simply mental constructs of your own imagination
Eternal existence is not possible because of the Second Law Of Thermodynamics while death is eternally possible
The rambling psychotic is bowing out so thanks for the interesting conversation
The psychotic is leaving you now so thanks for the conversation
Ahh… physics. Interesting, you haven’t figured out that the driving force of life is proof and imagination.
Explain to me: how does entropy work on the unassailable proof I just rendered about continuity of consciousness? We already know existence itself is a perpetual motion machine (how about identity) same proof?
Existence is a state of being not a machine
Perpetual motion is not possible without infinite energy that does not exist and cannot be created
Also after the heat death of the Universe has occurred maximum entropy will have been attained
We can prove by virtue of our existence that existence never stops (we are a subset), remember, existence is everything, if everything ceases to be… us, being a subset of existence wouldn’t be here making posts on a web board still holding your hand
Existence existed long before we did so while it is eternal we are merely finite. Only abstract things can possibly exist for ever because they are
not affected by reality. Things such as existence and death and numbers for example while physical things such as human beings cannot exist for
ever. Existence is therefore not conditional on my own existence. It will carry on long after I have died just as it did long before I was ever born
A hallucinated reality isn’t reality. It’s imagined. It’s not real.
You can’t be without having an eternal form of some sort, perhaps in a dimension of eternal forms.
Think it through. If something pops into existence without it being the exact thing, then thecombinatory factor came from nothing at all, coming from something else is coming from nothing. And we all know something doesn’t come from nothing, because nothing is not there from which to come.
So the answer is that we have eternal forms.
People can have tactile hallucinations, emotional hallucinations etc… they are actually reflected images of eternal forms, how you use them is imaginary, and because they are images and not the actual form, it’s impossible to hurt any being in existence against its will.
It’s still only an imagined world.
In the real world, people get hurt. One has to accept it and decide how to live with it.
One can be indifferent, one can be caring, one can be paralyzed by the it. There are all sorts of possibilities.
Yes, and apparently you missed the part where I stated that this type of world structure is damned if you do, damned if you don’t … that any structure that solves this problem is objectively superior, I
also stated that you can use the exact consciousness signatures and bodies depending on how difficult you want your life to be, my point, don’t dump on others because you want a hard life, do it to yourself.