How one should live.

if anyone could have their dreams come true forever, the thought of the impossible eternal death would never cross their minds. This is only a situational truth, not a universal truth for all being (which is why we still exist and always will)

My dream would be to be dead forever then I would no longer be able to suffer anymore
But because I am going to die I do not need to dream it as it is actually going to happen
Living forever is worse than being dead for you can never leave not even if you want to

I’m sorry. I’m going to have to hold your hand for a second. You see, if you ever die, then you cease to exist, throughout all space and time and beyond.

Wait! You do exist! You do the math!

Now since the stakes ARE infinite, you’ll start considering morality. Obviously, finite lives have a stake of 0%.

Maybe you folks will stop being cocky for a change and listen and pay attention.

Just because you want to live forever does not mean everyone else wants to
I have absolutely no problem with death either philosophically or in reality
And eternal non consciousness free from all suffering is as good as it gets

The point I am making. I agree with you, but that’s not how reality is. Use logic. If you die, you were never born. Proof through contradiction.

The stakes are not infinite and death is the answer not morality

I can only pay attention while I am still alive and before eternal non consciousness occurs

I gave you the proof through contradiction, and you’re plugging your ears saying “I can’t hear you!”

And you’re projecting states to me that aren’t true, I’ve tried harder than most to try to destroy existence… I learned the hard way… existence doesn’t get destroyed. You don’t think I was you at one point? Search deep in your heart. Why don’t you then just commit not only suicide but destroy the earth…

Because you know like I do that we never really die.

If you never existed you were never born
Death is just a transition between states

And states are not eternal non consciousness.

keeps holding your hand

No but every thing changes over time and the most obvious change is that from life to death
My death will only destroy me not existence which will carry on being long after I have gone

still holding your hand

Continuity of consciousness is your existence, should it ever cease to exist by time travelers in the past or a death in the infinite future poof you couldn’t be, right now.

I know this is hard for you

Death is the state of eternal non consciousness

No need to hold my hand once I am dead

Yes it is. And no, it doesn’t occur… just like nothing at all doesn’t occur. In your panic, you’re rambling and clawing like a psychotic.

Continuity of consciousness and time travellers in the past are simply mental constructs of your own imagination
Eternal existence is not possible because of the Second Law Of Thermodynamics while death is eternally possible


The rambling psychotic is bowing out so thanks for the interesting conversation

The psychotic is leaving you now so thanks for the conversation

Ahh… physics. Interesting, you haven’t figured out that the driving force of life is proof and imagination.

Explain to me: how does entropy work on the unassailable proof I just rendered about continuity of consciousness? We already know existence itself is a perpetual motion machine (how about identity) same proof?

Existence is a state of being not a machine
Perpetual motion is not possible without infinite energy that does not exist and cannot be created
Also after the heat death of the Universe has occurred maximum entropy will have been attained

We can prove by virtue of our existence that existence never stops (we are a subset), remember, existence is everything, if everything ceases to be… us, being a subset of existence wouldn’t be here making posts on a web board still holding your hand

Existence existed long before we did so while it is eternal we are merely finite. Only abstract things can possibly exist for ever because they are
not affected by reality. Things such as existence and death and numbers for example while physical things such as human beings cannot exist for
ever. Existence is therefore not conditional on my own existence. It will carry on long after I have died just as it did long before I was ever born