Exsiting

<Oh how I simultaneously wish I could live up to this imposing man’s words yet also I yearn to rebel for he taunts me so!>

Get lost, Guide. Content or nothing. No posturing.

The group finds this comment, of the group, very shallow and thoughtless. After all, it implies the group could never say anything worthy, since all must be already understood or a mere “posturing”. A stupid idea, discredited by anyone who has ever learned anything and reflects on what learning is. Besides, it also implies an idiot authority at work in the group’s answer, i.e., that the objection doesn’t understand itself, but relies on, some celebrity or teacher: ergo, it is beyond reason and unreasonable.

The group?

I concur on the matter of respect for Philosophy and for discussion, but people have been taught to bring argument to the table and not to discuss… especially Americans,

Argument is part of, but should not be the entirety of, a philosophical discussion.

Does it?

Isn’t that a rather shallow and thoughtless presumption? Ask yourself the question: could my response just as easily apply only to one thing you have said, such as the opening post of this incorrectly spelt thread?

It could? Well, that’s convenient because that’s all I intended.

If I was going to make generalisations about you, I’d now suspect you to be hostile and defensive to the point of irrationality, and with your intentionally bizarre style of speech: pretentious and self-important.

But I’m not going to assume, so feel free to prove my initial response wrong and dispel my suspicious, drop the posturing and create some actual content for this here thread of yours. Or prove me right and don’t, up to you.

:laughing:

Any raising of the voice, or claim to something exceptional, can be construed as a foolish act. As a mere boast without corresponding substance. This is, of course, the basis for Aristophanes’ Clouds.

The group says concerning oneself with typos is unworthy and petty, even shameful, and reflects decidedly poorly on whoever would do it. It shows a lack of seriousness. It also wastes the group’s time.

No. These relentlessly supercilious words of the group, the group repudiates. It never could; it is connected to, it points to, the group’s motivation and peculiar bent.

The group finds this embarrassingly petty; most adolescent is the group.

The group advises the group to cease from wasting time with cheep insults concerned with small-minded and thoughtless notions of appropriate style.

The group is angry at academia. This is understandible. The group will rage, out loud, no words, until it can question again. It will know this rage has been soothed when the group finds itself focusing on specific questioning and not this or that portion of the group. It will find itself on one topic, then another, getting into the grit of questioning, moving in and out of abstraction, concrete to abstraction. Showing not telling.

The group may notice that the group becomes what it has rage at: it hates academia, but stays up in abstraction, just like academics.

Down from the pedestal harranging itself…
and taking on Chomsky
or the culture of distraction
or how far the obssession with surfaces has come in Western Culture (the I am what I present fashion)
or what digital media says AS AN AUTHORITY not through words, but through the structure of the medium and how implicitly changes the group
or…
the group will pick one then another
the group will fall in love with questioning
not some portion that wants to be seen as THE questioner
The group falls out of love with gurus and in love with the process

AND LOOK the group is ALREADY questioning…
sometimes well, sometimes not…the group can get better…
If the group has something to offer the group it can stop lecturing abstractly and question an authority
in some thread or a new thread
The group would be welcome
The group would be walking the talk
instead of talking the walk.
What a group! and the group has much to learn from the group.
The group can feel anticipation…

The group, um, CANNOT allow itself, anymore, to avoid pointing out the group’s willful avoidance of philosophey.

Of philosophy.

In the case of the group, it gives MORE weight to the uh matter. At hand. And not less, as the group meekly suggests.

The group is still waiting for the part of the group that is simply protecting its pride from the actual tradition of philosophy with all these dialectic mannerisms to risk seeming foolish by exposing its understanding of the subject matter in a way that incorporates, even if in enmity, what great philosophers have said, rather than turning it into plastic lifeless objects, say, or just kicking and screaming.

The group urges self discipline, and reminds the group that this does not equal capitulation.

Perhaps, the group reflects, it is not so much what great philosophers have said as what they have thought.

In any case, what they have said is the marker.

Or where they have walked, in which bogs they nearly drowned - but they won’t tell you that.

Where the road split under their feet and they just barely hung on to a root kind enough to allow them escape the plunge - what of this root? Where is it mentioned? Between epistemology and idealistic isomorphism? Between morality and the analytic circumspection of truth value? anywhere between the covers, or at least between the lines?

Perhaps simply in the warmth of life for life’s sake.

What is life?

Life is what life does. Ne?

This is a mistaken view on the part of the group. Rather as if one would imagine Edmond Husserl, a world class mathematician, found the mathematical physics decisively wanting because he was resentful of mathematicians. The group recommends an essentially more serious tact be taken up by the group, other than cheep and tasteless polemics. The group must confront the issues, rather than seek refuge in hopeful explanations concerning trivial personal accidental motives.

“The group, um, CANNOT allow itself, anymore, to avoid pointing out the group’s willful avoidance of philosophey.”

The group says: exacto! And this must be so even at the expense of the many: the reverence for the destroyed university and for the crippled fragments of thought to be found there amidst the raging thoughtlessness.

This “the group” thing is a boring gimmick. Speak properly.

I see you didn’t opt to inject content into the thread either…

The group is finally accurately self-assessing.

"This “the group” thing is a boring gimmick. Speak properly.

I see you didn’t opt to inject content into the thread either…"

The group finds this group answer facile.

The group sees: a member of the group struggling (i.e., who should be struggling) with the temptation of fruitless polemics. The group would suggest disentangling biographical persons from investigations.

Jesus Christ dude…

I comment on how vacuous your self-congratulatory offer for a circle jerk is, and you blame me for not doing what you should have been doing?

Just how damaged are you?