A social capitalist sounds a bit like an oxy moron, does it not? 
I don’t know yet to be honest, I am still trying to find that out in much contemplation.
Don’t be afraid to express yourself here.
Yes, there in lies the rub of multi racial multiculturalism.
You mean slave revolt did exist, which is true. Byt socialism was in fact a Marxian creation from the opium pipe.
Capitalists focus on creating and inventing things. Zerosum wants to steal things from capitalists which is all socialism is, a negative to subtract from the positive of capitalism.
A capitalist does not want even one regulation, so, therefore, one regulation makes the system socialist and now it’s merely a question of where to draw the line on how much regulation is needed.
Regulations are always for the good of society, not the capitalist.
Capitalism is zero regulation
Socialism is greater than zero, but less than 100% regulation
Fascism and communism are 100% regulated.
If someone wants to argue the definitions, then show me a regulation that benefits the capitalist who believes the free market resolves everything. If that can’t be done, then the definitions stand.
Now, do you want to eat food that is not inspected by the government? No? Then you’re a socialist. So, essentially we are all socialists arguing about just how socialist we ought to be. I doubt anyone is really a capitalist.
So all these arguments based on definitions of what party affiliations we have are basically for political rhetoric, in order to stretch out boring or displaced discussions, right?
No. A capitalist is someone who uses money to make money. A socialist is someone who wants to spend money to make society better. So you can invest and make money, and then build a shelter for the homeless.
Socialist Thinkers Before Karl Marx:
Robert Owens 1771-1858
Charles Fourier 1772- 1837
Pierre Joseph Proudhon 1809-1865
Louis Blanc 1811- 1882
Saint Simon 1760-1825
Versus
Karl Marx 1818-1883
Capitalism doesn’t steal? 
Socialism doesn’t seek to disrupt or lessen innovation just so you know.
State centrally controlled capitalism does argue for a minimum of regulations, it’s only delusional libertarians that argue for a zero regulatory environment.
All socialist governments argue for 100% regulation because as socialists we understand how corruption of private individuals work like with zero oversight, I just call that common sense.
There is this tiresome narrative that socialists are against trade, investments, labor, making money, working, or running businesses. It is all of course completely unfounded.
The caricature that capitalists create for socialists is a ridiculous one.
A socialist is an individual that desires to create a levelled playing field economically in society where all people have the opportunity to succeed in life and where they’re all protected by government equally under law. This is of course much different from capitalists with their exclusive monopolies followed by a belief of exceptional entitlements where they basically don’t give a damn whatsoever about a majority of people. This is why capitalism will fail because when you throw 75% of your population under the bus into ruin it is not a winning strategy of success for society collectively as a whole.
Best chance you have at making society better is to live better yourself. If you don’t think that competition is where the cream rises to the top, then what does cause it? Think about the accumulation of wealth necessary to research cures for disease and to build shelters and to fund programs for those who can’t manage to take care of themselves. Who’s gonna accumulate that wealth? Certainly not a bunch of participation trophy hippies.
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Turns out, Socialism is none other than philanthropic capitalism.
(some one still got to makes the money, before it is given away to the splendid poorly ones)
No, I’m pretty sure you’re confusing philanthropic capitalism with tax evasions or tax write offs.
Is this another Fixed Cross account? Ironic hearing about capitalism from the ultimate trust fund kid.
I have nothing against competition however competition taken to the extremes only hurts society as a whole. I am all about cooperative competition, at first glance that might seem contradictory but it isn’t.
I assure you there is nothing hippie about my beliefs.
Are you James S Saint now, spreading lies about my life like some resentful snake?
Ive already produced more value and done more responsible and lucrative labour than you can imagine.
As for the OP, I think barbarian horde was under the impression that you had read these authors.
Capitalism is naturally social. Tax evasion came into existence when lower class folks like yourself were given access to the mean to productions.
Socalism has failed.
“There is no such thing as a snail-king” - JP
Hippies thrived on relentless competition, sexual and economic, which is how they came to dominate basically all industries except derivative banking. None of them were economic socialists. Don’t even think you can be confused with them. They were pacifists, not fascists like you, and creative, rather than destructive like you.
What you’re after is simple uncreative plunder based on numbers. But you’re too late. Your kind has already leeched your country dry.
To be perfectly clear to the people reading this snakes thread, I have earned all money I ever spent and done it by enhancing worthy purposes, even if many were merely mildly worthy. And always Ive obstructed the people who payed me when they were doing something undignified, whether that meant I got fired or the company got destroyed, no matter, I don’t compromise.
You are your work. If you convince yourself you have an identity separate of what you bring into existence, you are a non-entity.
Ive discovered to both my disgust and amusement (typical internet-engendered sensation) that there is a whole network of slaves talking about me in backrooms like bureaucrats from Brussels. I don’t care what they think. But I will rectify their worst public lies.
Rather than a beneficiary, I am the type that builds other peoples careers. Half the time, the people I aim to exalt refuse to do the rudimentary labor, but when they worked according to my valuing of them, they have invariably become successful. I am never wrong about peoples powers. But versus their weaknesses I am often too mild in my judgment. I will change that;
I once recommended that you, Joker, become a novelist, but now that potential is wasted, compromised, tarnished by your fouler tendencies, your “politics”. You will never be able to write a story that people want to read, anymore - youve lost your character, and with that, your style.
Ah, so James S Saint (may he rest in peace) came to similar conclusions? How about that.
I have been told by others here that you come from a rich family which I’ve always assumed to be true you being the globe trotter that you are. What kind of valued labor production have you done? I’m curious, please indulge my curiosity.
Capitalism is natural socially? Well that depends what side of the spectrum you fall under in the categorization of capitalism, are you a master or slave? Are you an exploiter or the exploited?
Being a slave, peasant, or serf I can assure you it is an unnatural lifestyle to be imposed on anybody.
Now some here might thump their chests and say that the master slave dynamic is only natural as it most certainly reoccurs all throughout history but then again what also reoccurs with that dynamic as well is revolution, insurrection, and whole entire societies that collapses when there are more outnumbering slaves than there are masters. Also, capitalism eventually destroys itself when the poor outweigh the wealthy especially in a market consumer society where vast majority of individuals have little to no disposable income. Without consumer spending concerning disposable income a consumer market comes to a grinding halt thereby collapsing afterwards. Any society where the poor are sixty percent or more of the population will collapse, it’s as simple as that.
It’s not the lower classes that evades taxes but instead is always the very wealthy that believe they shouldn’t have to contribute anything to society. I am not sure what you meant or were referring to with your means of production comment.
Moderate socialism certainly has been defeated temporarily by both capitalism and communism, there’s no doubt about that since such a defeat came shortly after world war II. Then in the 1980’s communism collapsed with the fall of the U.S.S.R. where surviving marxists have only been able to find refuge in campus university environments. Now for my theory next capitalism also will collapse as an ideology and it will do so with the collapse of the United States. The United States is to capitalism what the U.S.S.R. was for communism. Moderate socialism will eventually make a comeback as its ideals lives on by many and with both communism or capitalism collapsed on themselves something else will have to fill the void.