Female power over men

I am having a hard time understanding your criticizing of my statement. :-k

The modern, western world, has forsaken morality (personal and social responsibility) in almost every way. Women are not acting responsibly (toward men, marriage, family, and relationships) just as men are not acting responsibly in many ways too (drug abuse, apathy, “men going their own way”, rebelling against the system). However female irresponsibility is a taboo topic. Although men can be regularly criticized for any and all numbers of behaviors, females invoke their “female privilege” to avoid accusations of blame altogether.

For example, who is to blame for high-divorce rates throughout society? Women? Men? Both??? This needs to be investigated philosophically. Perhaps women are more to blame than men. But the full topic needs to be uncovered, without bias. Women need to be “attacked”, if it means getting to the truth. Women hate and detest any sort of ‘blame’, responsibility, accountability, etc. So good luck with pointing at women, for societal problems.

In patriarchal systems, females must follow strict rules or be punished, or ousted from those systems. Western liberal-leftist ideology has taken in most of the ‘outcast’ women, saying that “all is forgivable”. So women have flocked to liberal-leftism, the privilege, of being even more blameless and irresponsible than ever before. Women hate being judged, for example, for being promiscuous with sex. Any “conservative” or “right” ideology will be attacked, by women.

Recently, for example, Pandora has made the counter-argument several times, that if you dislike women having sex with multiple men, then you “must be” an Islamic-Muslim Paedophile Fascist. No middle ground, with women, you are a Fascist, or, women can do whatever they want without repercussions. You are a “good guy” if you date a woman who has been in 12 previous relationships, and has 5 previous children, which you must provide for. And you are a “bad guy” if you want a less experienced woman without children.

This is false.

Men do not “drive women away” from Philosophy. Rather it is that women simply have no interest in philosophy. It’s like women and football. Women will be Cheerleaders. But they won’t be actual NFL football players. They lack the ability, physique, and mentality. Same with philosophy. Women simply won’t participate in the actual “doing of philosophy”. But they will sit on the sidelines (of “feminist” philosophers) and cheer for them.

“Driving away” women from philosophy would be like “driving away” women from an NFL football team.

First of all, women don’t even try out for the team. Second of all, if they did try out for the team, then they would fail big time. Women can’t withstand or endure the physical try-outs and expectations. Women can’t lift as much, push as much, run as fast, or run as long. Thirdly, there is the “female privilege” of “do not hit women”. So women would be unwelcome, in the end, if an apex female hypothetically could withstand the physical rigor. There would still be the problem of “well I shouldn’t hit women, so I have to go easy on this NFL woman”. That is perhaps the biggest, hypothetical problem. Men and women, both subconsciously agree on “female privielge”, of not hitting women.

In a way, NFL football proves to women that men are valuable: “See how big and strong we are, we can protect you”. The winning NFL team proves their masculinity, to women. It’s very much a display of prowess and manhood. It proves this to other men too. “We are the most masculine and manly team, for winning the Superbowl”.

Only the craziest of Feminists/Feminism would think it’s a good idea, or feasible idea, that “women should be NFL players”. Obviously, this argument doesn’t exist, historically. It doesn’t exist now. Nobody on this forum argues or believes that “women should be NFL players”.

So, yes, female privilege is the unspoken truth. Men and women are not equal. Women are the protected, privileged gender. And I’m fairly certain that women want to continue to enjoy this privilege. Women are becoming a little too over-confident, and asking for too much. Women can be cheerleaders, but they can’t really be NFL football players. It’s not really in their natural, biological, genetic programming anyway.

A woman could, possibly, hypothetically, prove me wrong. But they won’t. They probably can’t. And they probably shouldn’t anyway.

The feminists, and feminism, is flatly wrong. Men and women are not equal. And should not be equal. It’s fine the way it is, with traditional gender-roles, expectations, and relationships. Men do somethings. Women do others. Men play in the NFL, throw the ball, catch the ball, make some touchdowns. Women use sex to seduce the NFL football players. Each to their own devices. Women feel insecure about this fact. They say, “aren’t I more than just my sex”. Yes, women can be “more than sex”. But that is on women to prove and explain, to justify. If a woman wants to be “more than her sex”, then she must prove how and why. I don’t see any men saying “I am more than my sex”. Because men must already compensate, by being NFL football players. By being engineers. By being priests. By being politicians. By being janitors and sewer cleaners. By doing everything else.

All men must do things, to compensate for the low sexual value of “being a man”. Women don’t need to, don’t have to “do things”.

Women will say that you are “bashing women” and “misogynist” if you speak about the unspoken-truth, of gender inequality and female-privilege, and that women can’t be (or simply won’t be) NFL football players. But this a logical fallacy. Just because women, themselves, don’t want to be NFL football players, doesn’t mean I hate women. It actually more proves the point that I “love women” than hate women. Because it means I’m protecting women from their own stupidity. I’m preventing a completely naive and ignorant woman, from trying-out on the NFL football team, because she’s going to get some bones broken or severely concusted. She’s going to get her face smashed in.

So philosophers should protect women, from their own stupidity and naivety. No, you’re not NFL football players, and your probably shouldn’t ever try to become one.

Just like women are not Philosophers, and probably should never become one. You’ll get your brain caved in, your ideas shatters. Your fantasies and romanticism, your female-privilege, would come crashing down.

And for women, that’s too much to bear. Women will continue to be naive, innocent, delusional, and completely irresponsible, held to the lowest standards of rigor, logic, and rationality.

Again, this is protecting women from themselves, and this notion of “Gender Equality”.

You’re not an NFL football player. You’re not a philosopher. You can pretend to be one. But you’ll never be one. And probably, you should never try. Let the NFL football players do their thing. Let the philosophers do our thing.

Being “more than sex” is what women are exploring currently and sure not all their areas of investigation are going to be beneficial to women overall, but women need to experience their range of abilities and those accompanying limits, just as men have throughout time. Women are discovering their newly held freedom to pursue what may seem crazy to men, such as becoming football players, but it’s a step towards determining what a woman’s capabilities are. I agree that there are differences between the biology of the sexes and what it allows them to readily do, but women are experimenting to see how small or wide that gap between the physical prowess between the sexes is. As a woman, through bodybuilding in the past, I realized that my legs and back are crazy strong for I was leg pressing 800lbs. It took a male trainer lying to me by downplaying my strength to open my eyes; he loaded up the machines with heavier weight but told me I was lifting low amounts of weight.

So, what women are doing is research although it’s not official scientific research, its personal research to reach their limits regarding physical abilities as well as possibly figuring out new ways of accomplishing the same feats that were set up by men. I support their undertaking to test their mettle (so to speak), but direct competition between men and women in the physical arena would never be equal, nor do I advocate such. One simple answer as to the why a woman would return from her physical conquests to test her mettle, would be to confirm her fitness to produce healthy, strong, physically capable offspring on her end of the sexual pairing, adding to the genetic superiority of both her male and female offspring. Such female experimentation could also result in greater self-confidence and self-sufficiency so a male companion doesn’t have to baby their female partner every minute of the day. In the very least, these highly physical female undertakings are maintaining a women’s mental and physical health so long as they are explored safely without serious self-harm. Imbalanced hormones may prompt these investigations to begin with where a woman’s estrogen is on the lower side and her testosterone is elevated above normal on average. I think men should encourage women to discover their physical strengths, but also understand that a physically confident woman will not be as much of a pushover as a women with no knowledge of her overall physical prowess.

I agree that a conservative counter movement needs to officially be established.

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I never said men drive women away from philosophy. And I already said as much that women aren’t so much interested in it. And I gave some explanation for that.

Please try to pay better attention.

Quoting something that I never said is lying. Don’t do that.

This is what you wrote, since you need the reminder. You’re welcome.

You’re merely reducing females to sex here, again.

For the record, I don’t speak negatively when “reducing women to sex”. It’s not a bad thing. It’s a good thing. The feminine nature is very powerful, when it is true to itself. Females have a different type of power than men. And as long as women neglect this, and foolishly pursue “equality with men” through accomplishments, then women will continue to degenerate as society does too.

Feminism has demonized the “feminine woman”. This is the false first step.

I did? :astonished: Hmmm. Sex as in gender cannot be dispensed with, there’s no way around that. Like I already said, not all women are feminine due to their hormone levels and with all the pollution and subsequent genetic mutations caused by it, women may have higher T (testosterone) levels currently than ever before and men may have higher E (estrogen) levels than ever before. Couldn’t this be a scientific cause for role reversals that are seemingly occurring in male feminization and female masculinization?

The scientific aspect is that genes are adapting to exponentially domesticated environments. In order for average humans to live, and reproduce, bodies, habits, and lifestyles are changing. Communication is instantaneous. Travel is severely reduced. Comforts are increased. Everybody is living longer and more secure than ever before.

You said, Men do not “drive women away” from Philosophy

Those quotes are not mine.

I don’t appreciate being misquoted.

These domesticated environments may be sheltering folks on one hand to behave less typically, but there are harmful agents in everything eaten, drank, breathed, etc.

People are not complete victims. People could change, to adjust, and better adapt, if they have the will and knowledge.

I don’t think we are on the same page regarding our polluted environment and its potential effects on biology, expected and as in this case, unexpected.

You said that philosophy (men) “left women out”, which is false. Men do not “leave women out” of philosophy. Women simply do not participate. Philosophy has almost always been an impractical pursuit. Men seek out the greatest mysteries in life, and existence. Women are more pragmatic. Women focus on bare necessities, and do not explore the outer realms.

Women are focused upon the home, civilization, domestication, and have no interest in existence ‘outside’ humanity.

You may now continue being melodramatic.

You’re blaming the environment for what people could change in themselves, if they wanted to.

Even if a food were bad for you, people will still eat it, like sugary and fatty foods. People “know” it’s bad, but eat it anyway. So a conscious willpower must be exerted to stop the behavior.

Civilization is over-abundant, and so, people must consciously starve themselves (the origin of Fasting in cultures), to offset the over-abundance of food.

You see, religions have traditions in them, based on these original causes. Where do you believe Fasting comes from, if not this?