Researchers Discover 'Anxiety Cells' In The Brain

Seems to me that you don’t have much control over yourself. Because it went wrong with biggie, now you have no choice. That’s kinda where I am as well; why bother if I can’t win? I had no choice but to play before because I was young, ambitious, optimistic, curious, adventurous (like you), and now I have no choice but to not play because I’m worn out (like you). So I’m playing chess with Garry Kasparov… sure, I’m free to move wherever I want, but it can only end one way and the only winning move is not to play (like you’re doing).

I wasn’t always so pessimistic, but maybe I got too smart (ignorance is bliss they say). As soon as I consciously decide to do something, evolution immediately begins working against me. As soon as I decide to play white, the universe takes the opposing black position. Looks like dad was right… winning is a fluke, a miracle of luck or necessary aberration just to put losing back into context and give it significance.

Think whatever you want about it.

Do I have a choice? :confusion-shrug:

Yes

Note my premise is;

DNA wise ALL humans has the potential to suffer an existential crisis, thus angst.
I have given a framework of elements to support the above of which there is no room for doubt.
I agree the question of the mechanics of a more detailed explanation is not given [yet] and a more details answer/explanation down to the specific neurons will be answered in the future via the HCP.

You’re entitled to your views, but I disagree with your assessment.
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That is a fact from your responses here as evidence. That will be my conclusion until proven otherwise.

HCP merely provide a main model of how the brain neurons are connected in general. Like anything else there are obvious exceptions from the standard model.

Note synaethesia where the supposedly sense faculty are to be correctly connected to the right neurons 99% of the time. But due to neuroplasticity [negative in this case] there are cases where the senses cross-wired where a person can ‘taste’ music, etc.
Neuroplasticity happens when certain standard connections are damaged [in stroke and other brain defects] thus the brain will find new pathways.
These are the exceptions which will be highlighted along with the main findings of the HCP.
Neuroplasticity could be exploited with the knowledge from the HCP to strengthen modulation of the anxiety impulses.

Note since anxiety cells are inherent, they will not be eliminated. Thus they can only be inhibited and modulated.
I don’t expect any side effects from the modulation of anxiety cells when done properly within the knowledge we have.

The only possible side effects are when people do more than the necessary recommended exercises and procedures. This can be prevented via self-development programs of modulating over-enthusiasm and other impulse controls.

With advances in the HCP in the future, controls and monitoring can be implemented to ensure the vulnerable percentile [low %] do not deviate from the standard procedures.

Note as I had stated this OP is highly speculative based on studies from mice.

What I have done is I have provided references of evidences that support its possibility in the future, e.g.

  1. A thesis argument to its possibility.
  2. The potential of the HCP
  3. The current ongoing practices of modulating anxieties, Buddhism, psychology, neurosciences, etc.
  4. Others

Pris,

No room for doubt? You have “QED” issues, QED :slight_smile: .

#-o … Okay, but you should understand that such criticisms from you, due to the general rejections of your speculative claims, are conversely compliments, because it means that I haven’t followed you into what I perceive as a rabbit hole.

HCP is the new phrenology; and phrenology has been largely disproved.
I would ask if there is any other place in the brain other than in the amygdala where anxiety can be expressed?
Anxiety in the brain generally indicates something is physically wrong, It does not indicate some free floating disposition that affects everyone negatively. It is more like an impetus to adapt and to survive, which is the brain’s job of tending to homeostasis. Anxiety is a prod for survival behavior. There are some who do “go gently into that good night” without experiencing the horror of death-imposed religious anxiety. Fear of death and of what may become of the I after death is a type of cowardice.
“Thou art that” is a Sanskrit saying. After death you will become an intimate part of matter in its dance with energy. In fact you already are that now in life.

That’s the magical future where everything works exactly as you conceive it in your head, everything is “done properly” and there are never any problems. :laughing:

One can’t argue with a fantasy.

Tat Tvam Asi

If I say,
DNA wise, ALL humans [normal] have two legs and two hands, where is the room for doubt here.
The above is the same for the elements of the DNA driven existential crisis I referred to.

That is your discretion.

Whatever ‘talks’ is ultimately valid arguments.

Wow!! The above is one of the worst rhetoric against HCP which is genuine Science. Don’t insult your own intelligence.

If you do a search re Human Connectome Project - Scholarly Articles, you get 14,400 results.

Note the Human Connectome Project is done along the same approach as the Human Genome Project which is already completed.

Other than chemicals, note the parts of the brain [bolded] that contribute to anxiety.

You got it wrong.

Anxiety is related to the physical and mental but ultimately anxiety is triggered consciously or subconsciously if there is a threat of death, premature and otherwise, i.e. to ensure survival.

Note I have stated before, the fear of death is generally suppressed in normal people to ensure people are not paralyzed by such fears so they can go about in their daily life.

But the suppression is not 100% and it caused seepage within the subconscious mind that manifest the death anxiety which compel the majority into religions. The fact is >90% of ‘normal’ humans are religious.
Many of these religions are driven by the fear of what may become of the I after physical death - you call them cowards?? They are ‘normal’ people.

True whatever is the physical body [molecules, atoms, etc] and waves generated will dissipate and spread all over the Universe.
But note there are loads of counter views to the above, i.e. there is no real self ‘the you or I’ to start with that become part of the universe.
The idea of an absolute “I” or “I AM” [Descartes’ sum] is an illusion and an impossibility.

The present thinking of the idea of “I” or “I AM” and the insistence it survives somewhat after physical death in the unknown future is purely psychological.
Note there is a serious conflation here when you in your present state is fearing what will happen in the future which is unknown and speculated without grounds.

Side effects are still possible but they will be closely monitored.
I point you have not taken into account is the current trend of the exponential expansion of knowledge and technology in the various advance fields plus the increasing average intelligence and wisdom of humans.
If you keep up to date with the above, you will have the optimism like I have. It is only unlikely if you are a hardcore pessimist like Iambigous.

It’s not a question of pessimism/optimism or trends.

You are simply avoiding counterarguments and problems with your thesis by shifting to some undefined point in the future when everything is “resolved”. And you assume that the resolution will support your current position. Of course, you can never be shown to be wrong because the future is unknown and inaccessible. If someone disagrees, then you label him a pessimist.

That’s not a philosophy discussion.

It’s a decent sci fi story, complete with the this is how it could be imagination.
The HCP articles are not impressive and admit of other possibilities than noted connections. Your argument is ad populum.

duplicate

Note philosophy discussions is most critical for the future, i.e. the next second, minute, hour, day, week, month, year, years, 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, 50 years, 75 years, 100 years. The above ‘about the future’ has to be based on past/current knowledge and trends of what had really happened.

Note I have not shifted to some undefined point in the future, but I have narrowed the possible realization to within 50-100 years and it could be earlier.

I have always been relying on the current trend of the exponential expansion of knowledge and technology in many fields of new knowledge.
Note the advances in the neurosciences, genomics, etc. in the last 20 years that has enabled new frontiers in other fields of knowledge to be expanded, e.g. medical, psychology, psychiatry, etc.
In terms of technological trend, note Moore’s Law in IT - do you think this trend of “doubling” [if not 2x, then 1.75x] will stop suddenly in the future?

  1. One area you can counter my argument is to show the trends I am forecasting are not feasible at all, e.g. the Human Connectome Project. Show me this HCP project and brain mapping of the human brain is impossible?
  2. Show me the exponential expansion of knowledge will stop soon?
    Show me even if 2 if real, it is impossible to link anxiety cells to religions and nothing can be done about it.

On the other hand, I have proven the ‘idea of God’ was a fake and illusory [for psychological reasons] from the start till the present, and God exists will be an impossibility in the future and eternally.

Where did you read about the HCP articles?
Obviously there will be limitations and barriers within the HCP but mapping of the brain is a long term and ongoing project.

I suggest you do more research on the HCP.
humanconnectome.org/study/h … p-data.php