Accusations alone prove Nothing

I mean it comes down to this, a single person, let alone all of society, isn’t going to change their opinion of you, and start hating you on the basis of what one racist said about your race, and furthermore the racist may have said something benign, like I just want to preserve my race, not exterminate or subjugate other races, or I think Italians are too emotional, gregarious and jovial, where as if you falsely accuse someone of rape, you will probably ruin that individuals life overnight.

If I made you afraid to talk in the gun control thread, I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to tyrannize you.

I’m not talking about the degrees of something that exists, I’m referring to how one thing is or is not, in this case, the equivalent of another. For instance, the liberal lefties equate an accusation with a guilty verdict. Is that an accurate equation? Is rape the equivalent of a lie? Is racism the equivalent of murder? Should a white collar criminal receive the same penalty as a murderer? <—I was on a roll so I had to throw that in there. :evilfun:

Well, every ant is an ant, but if we call progressives an entity, how do we tell which individuals are members?

The problem is that people don’t know how to think.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g[/youtube]

Oh, well I was addressing this:

it originally allied itself more with socialism than capitalism, but today it’s less concerned with economics, and if anything has allied itself more with capitalism than socialism.

They pulled a fast-one and circumvented democracy without anyone being the wiser.

Now that video’s what I’m talking about Serendipper! :smiley:We got a witch!”

This one is pretty good too:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtYU87QNjPw[/youtube]

Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government! :laughing:

That still cracks me up.

:laughing: “Help, help, I’m being repressed!” :laughing:

Have you seen the movie? I could probably feed it to you clip by clip from what I can tell about the number of uploads on youtube, though not sure any others have relevance to the thread unless we count general silliness in which case there is plenty of that :wink:

Wendy

In an ideal world, accusation alone wouldn’t be enough for the whole village to turn against you, but unfortunately in this world, it’s enough, and so a false accusation is very damaging, comparable to the crime itself.

I don’t think so at all, for the reasons I gave, but some progressives seem to think so.
However, progressives are racist against whites all the time, they just don’t realize it, or care.

Depends on how much he stole, and who he stole it from, if he stole billions of dollars from poor people, than yea, he should receive life in prison, or death.

Deliberately missing the point.

Classy.

Serendipper

every ant is an ant, and so much more, every ant is the whole universe.

I think someone needs to brush up on their Alan Watts. :wink:

And someone said: you know a tree by the fruit it produces.

If it produces oranges, it’s not an apple tree.

Now people and their psychologies can be a little more complicated than trees, so you go with what they overwhelmingly produce.
Most people are rather simple, particularly when it comes to politics, they are a this or a that, and there’s a reason for that besides biology and chance, simple people are easier to manage.

Alan is a high-flying bird… way over my head.

(The higher we soar the smaller we appear to those who cannot fly. - Nietzsche)

Nice.

“Between the things known and unknown, are the doors.” -Jim Morrison

So racism is not murder, but a lie is rape? The racism could be a lie, so it could be both a rape and a murder. :evilfun:

BTW, I haven’t been watching the latest but who has been proven to have thrown a false rape accusation?

I wish the world was a better place so people would suspend their judgement until after an investigation in the very least (I’d much prefer criminal prosecution but many people luck out due to the statutes of limitations or the fact that there won’t be any formal investigation, period.) An inappropriate, sexually suggestive/explicit comment is not rape either, but you know how the liberal left blows damage up to ridiculous degrees. I know you want to blame the liar for the public’s reactions, but those life altering damages are perpetrated by those who choose, CHOOSE, to believe something without evidence and treat a person differently based on an unproven statement.

Yeah good luck with that.

2 Minute Hate is in full force now.

Welcome to leftism (death).

Every ant is a part of the whole universe and every ant creates its own universe “in its image”. I heard Alan say those two things. Well, he used the word creature and not ant. Hmm… I wonder if the entity of progressives can create a universe in its image. What does that even mean?

But in the context of this “very important” game we’re playing wherein certain assumptions were made, such as people and ants existing, what considerations do we give progressives as an entity? It’s an interesting puzzle.

Coincidentally, I was just now rummaging through my Watts collection to see if I could find where he said “nothing can be more egotistical than true repentance.”

If we apply that to progressives, what is considered the fruit?

That seems so… absolute. The fact that I found that interesting is interesting because it seems I’m looking at the bible in a new light.

Molyneux had a good point about that: He said that due to the monarchical-type governments (or even tribal leaders on smaller scales) people were selected for obedience since anyone who protested the ruler was executed or banished; therefore bootlicking is in our dna (except for random rebels).

On top of that, the public school system is not for education but obedience and allegiance training. Even our sports is preparation of soldiers for war. I think it was the whole first year of WWI that the UK didn’t need the draft due to overwhelming numbers of volunteers, so investigators wondered what could explain such self-sacrifice to country. I watched a whole movie on it, but damn I can’t find it again.

Here’s a 2-min dramatization of the differences between “civilized justice” and “frontier justice”:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYLLoG8zd74[/youtube]

Good movie btw.

Wendy

Racism is not murder, and, certain, lies are, akin, to rape, in that they do as much damage.
The punishment for the crime, is often as bad or worse than the crime itself.

I stopped watching that whole fiasco a long time ago, I didn’t want to feed it anymore energy.

I mean don’t get me wrong, I’m sure Hollywood is rife with rape and all manner of sordid behavior, including women voluntarily using their V to attain an advantage over their competitors: men, and women who don’t use their V, and then playing the Victim card later,like they were coerced into it

We can have our suspicions about who did what, and we can act on those suspicions, distancing ourselves from people, but a suspicion is not the same as knowledge, not even close, so we have to be extra careful when doing so.
And it’s wrong to always, only suspect the accused of wrongdoing, and never, not the accuser.
Progressives, the MSM, Hollywood and the entertainment industry our completely biased against the accused, falsely equating accusation with conviction.

exactly

If you’re a knowing accomplice to a murder, even tho you didn’t pull the trigger yourself, if you obtained the gun, egged the killer on, helped them plan it and so on, you’re just as guilty as the person who pulled the trigger.
If 25 people take part in a murder, we don’t give each one of them a year in prison, we give each one of them 25 years in prison, or approaching 25 years, perhaps some 10 years, others 15.

The liar is the accomplice, and society pulls the trigger.
It’s hard to punish thousands of people who shun the person falsely accused of rape, because there’s so many of them, and one shunning by itself isn’t so bad, difficult to ascertain, and there’s no legal precedent for punishing someone for shunning you, but there is legal precedent for punishing slanderers.
The liar plays the integral role here, they’re the one who started it.
Without them, none of it would’ve happened, but without any one of the individuals who go on to hate and shun the victim, the accused, the other individuals would still hate and shun them, and so the liars action is equal to or greater than the thousands of small, subsequent actions, hatreds and ostracizing.

Not in thirty years. I’d forgotten just how funny it was. Time to re-watch.