Accusations alone prove Nothing

Keep reading Marcuse, to get your definitions of what “rationality” means. No wonder it is terminal - for you.

Well, I can’t compete with your appeal to authority when it comes to exemplifying rationality. You win, well done!

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He fiddled my diddle forty years ago and it has taken that long to voice the courage in speaking out against him even though most of the original witnesses have long since passed away…

Who are you going to believe? Him or me? I have a vagina, the vagina never lies. The vagina is innocent, loving, and pure that can therefore never commit any evil. :sunglasses:

Lol.

K: it took me a while to actually figure out what this post is really about and it has
nothing to do with rape or men or the judical system but it’s just another post
attacking liberals… the author couldn’t give a shit about men or women
for that matter, but the demonzation of liberals is the real goal of this post…
and the juvenile posts that followed just proves the point… this post
has nothing of interest to say about the very real problem of the rape culture
in america… it would save a whole lot of time if the author and others of that
ilk would just admit they hate liberals and every post they make is just another
attack on liberals and we wouldn’t have to read this garbage thinking it might
be a real post on real issues instead of just another juvenile attack on liberals…

Kropotkin

I made a point.
I made several arguments for this point.
At this point, you’ve not even made a counterpoint, let alone an argument for it.
Instead, you’ve made two attempts to slander me.
Your first attempt was to suggest I’m a rape apologist without offering so much as an ounce of evidence or shred of proof for your suggestion, and it failed, miserably.
What a piece of shit you are, for suggesting that, how dare you!

Your second attempt was to accuse me of not giving a shit about men or women, of hating liberals, and of being juvenile, but you haven’t said why.
I could just as, if not more easily say, you don’t give a shit about men (but you do seem to care about women, or at least you feign to, in order to toe the party line), that you hate conservatives (I’m a socialist and an environemntalist btw, not that I even owe you that), and that your posts are juvenile…and I am saying it, but unlike you, I’m going to offer proof of my counteraccusations, because unlike you, I don’t think my accusations carry any weight just because I made them, or just because my party (I don’t have a party, I’m an independent, rigid adherence to political parties is one of the supreme marks of idiocy) holds them and has the arrogance to believe it is wholly incapable of wrongdoing.

Firstly, by claiming my point that we shouldn’t destroy the lives of men merely because they’ve been accused, without evidence or proof, of rape or sexual harassment, is an instance of not caring about women, when that’s not what it is, it is an instance of caring about men, by implication your position is that you think it’s right to destroy the lives of men who’ve merely been accused of rape or sexual harassment, but you’re too much of a slimy, degenerate coward to come right out and say it.
A person who gave much of a fuck about men, or was capable of doubting women on serious matters, wouldn’t hold a position like that, so you obviously don’t.
No you’re a misandrist, you hate men, and you’re a female supremacist, you think the word of women is superior to the word of men, because you think women are more honest and just than men, you think female life has more value than male life.

Secondly, it is I, not you, who have taken this opportunity to make a point, that we shouldn’t destroy the lives of men, or women for that matter, merely because they’ve been accused of rape or sexual harassment, and I’ve offered several arguments, where as you, not only failed to actually address them, but Ironically, all you’ve done so far, and all you’re probably capable of doing, is making baseless accusations against and mischaracterizations of me and anyone who takes up my position, and I am here to inform you that baseless accusations and mischaracterizations are not enough, they’re not enough to destroy the lives of men, and they’re not enough to trash me and my thread or anyone who takes up the position that it’s not okay to do that, asshole.

So why have you hitherto failed to address the obvious substance of this OP?
It’s probably because you’re guilty of the very things you’re accusing me of: of hating conservatives, or in other words, you’re projecting, you’ve become too deeply entrenched in your parties idiotic and dangerous position to seriously reexamine it, to think outside the left/right, black/white, all/nothing, liberal/conservative paradigm (my party right or wrong), because you are a coward and a lazy idiot.

Gloominary, don’t waste your time with Peter. He isn’t worth the effort.

While I haven’t had the displeasure of conversing with Peter until now, from what I have read from him so far, I’m practically certain you’re right about that.

What does a lumbering idiot do when you argue it’s wrong to destroy someone’s life solely on the basis of accusation?
Does he even attempt to make a counterargument somehow?
Of course not, that would be too difficult, he just hurls more accusation, at you, or anyone else who gets in his or his parties way, and people, or at least his idiotic ilk, eat it right up.
‘You’re a rape apologist’!
‘Or you just hate liberals, because I’m a liberal, and I can’t imagine having a debate about this with someone who’s not a conservative, and doesn’t hate liberals as much as I hate conservatives, because that’s how 3 dimensional, and rational, I am’.

To understand Peter you must understand that neo liberalism is the voice of God and anything contrary to this neo liberalism is Satan. That’s all you need to know.

In his eyes you’re Satan incarnate and CNN, NPR, or MSNBC neo liberal news rags is his version of the apostles. It’s the world perception he has limited himself to.

Also, he’s an ex communist or so he says anyways.

the simple reason I didn’t respond the points gloomy made was
they aren’t relevant to his post… his post was simply bashing liberals
and the method he used was about the very serious problem of the rape culture
in America… I don’t need to respond to a post that’s only value is to attack
liberals and liberalism…

Kropotkin

Me Too! :laughing: Yeah whatever, I don’t care really.

K: I have had multiple political positions in my life and I have had multiple
philosophical positions…I have had three distinct and different political
positions in my life and at least 5 philosophical positions and in the process of
changing my philosophical position as we speak…no one is the devil because there
is no devil… and no god either, just people…I don’t watch CNN or NPR or MSNBC…
unless there is some breaking news I am interested in… as in today, with the firing
of Tillerson from the State dept…but the most interesting point made here is about
perceptions… we are our experiences and our perceptions of those experiences…
that is what a human being is… unlike you, I have escaped my childhood
myths, habits, prejudices and superstitions… I hold a different political position
then my mother… my father is long dead and I don’t know what his political position
was…do you hold a different ideals then your parents or are you still in the
chains of your childhood training… in other words, I suspect that your views were
formed as a child from the teachings of your parents, school, media and you never lost
those views…you are being held by the chains of your past because you lack the
courage of an attack on your convictions… instead you believe in the courage of
your convictions… which is another chain you live with… as for hate… I have
no need for hate… I leave that for conservatives because they are so in love with the
negative emotions and so in love with the lower or instinctual emotions like hate,
anger, lust, envy… I shall stay with my higher emotions of love, peace,
hope, justice, tolerance and equality…

Kropotkin

Yeah, I am still ignoring you. Save the text space for somebody that cares Peter.

Zero: Yeah, I am still ignoring you. Save the text space for somebody that cares Peter."

K: and the first honest thing you have written… you don’t care… at least
you are honest about that…

Kropotkin

:laughing:

You’re a sexist piece of shit, and you couldn’t philosophize your way out of a tiny cardboard box or paper bag.
You’re not here for honest, open and thoughtful dialogue, not even in the slightest, you’re here for diatribe.
I refuse to set an example of feeding trolls like you, and other jerk offs.
Now get the fuck off my thread.

And there is no ‘rape culture’ in America, perhaps there’s a rape sub-subculture, but there’s no rape culture, on the contrary, but why don’t you post a new thread on the subject and how liberals are so much more peaceful and loving than conservatives, and refrain from muddying this one up any further than you already have.

Gloom,
I appreciated your last post before the edit. :wink:

:laughing: