Remind me to never underestimate how much you need babysitting, of course you don’t own a Leftist book, never mind this one. Have you even read one and bothered to find out the actual position of the left that you are so certain you are against? I’ll hold you to the same standards and assume that if you can’t quote one then it never happened
Also, it’s incredibly funny how you’re asking me for direct quotes when your current signature is “Reality is just a racist lie, invented by male troglodytes.” --Feminism
Not a person, not a source, and nobody ever even said that, right? No wonder you are so suspicious of others just making up shit they took out their own asses - it’s because you habitually do it yourself! Classic projection.
The entire section I mentioned is packed full of commentary about the withering away of the State as Socialism transitions into Communism, no need for a single quote, but if it will shut you up and help you to realise that your whole cause against the left is utterly unfounded (haha, yeah right, as if that would even cross your mind even if you were shown proof)…
The section literally starts:
“Engels’ words regarding the “withering away” of the state are so widely known, they are so often quoted, and so clearly reveal the essence of the customary counterfeiting of Marxism into opportunism that we must deal with them in detail.”
Marxism involves the withering away of the state in Engel’s own words as quoted by Lenin - how does this reconcile with state-authoritarian oppression by a Totalitarian leader like Stalin - as told to you by opportunists. Yes, let’s delve into this one in detail…
How about this gem in the same section:
“The government of persons is replaced by the administration of things and the direction of the processes of production. The state is not ‘abolished’, it withers away.”
There is no government of people, no egalitarian oppression. Not people, but THINGS and their production are planned, and again not by any state which withers away. He is referencing Anarchism when he contrasts Communism to the State being ‘abolished’.
He describes the State thus:
“as soon as class domination and the struggle for individual existence based on the anarchy of production existing up to now are eliminated together with the collisions and excesses arising from them, there is nothing more to repress, nothing necessitating a special repressive force, a state.”
Need I go on? There is nothing more to repress once the class domination of Capitalism (the anarchy of production existing up to now/the struggle for individual existence) is eliminated, as opposed to being present and merely moderated as under Social Democracy e.g. in the contemporary USA and much of the more developed countries of the West.
THERE IS NOTHING NECESSITATING A STATE UNDER COMMUNISM.
Now Jordan Peterson:
And then when the Marxists say “well that wasn’t real Marxism”, what it really means, and I’ve thought about this for a long time - it’s the most arrogant possible statement anyone could ever make. It means “If I would have been in Stalin’s position I would have ushered in the damn Utopia instead of the genocidal massacres because I understand the doctrine of Marxism and everything about me is good”. It’s like “well think again, Sunshine”.
Excellent punchline, ignorant content: youtube.com/watch?v=rSzpc2vh8Ow 4:44-5:09
Do you even remember who told you that Stalinism was Communism? Sources? Quotes? I would be completely unsurprised if you weren’t aware of the particular point when you were indoctrinated because it happens over a long period of time and is undetectable by fools, even until the point where they believe it blindly, unrelentingly and will even fight for it without even the slightest doubt and urge to fact check. Wake up.