Truth sucks when it proves you wrong, doesn’t it?
Deal with it.
The entire philosophy behind citizens owning weapons is that we are free adults and the government serves us, not the other way around. Rights are to and for individuals, not the state. Under certain conditions we agree in law that rights can be removed, such as taking guns away from violent criminals or locking violent criminals up. But to take everyone’s guns away is madness, you punish people who did nothing wrong and you destroy the entire philosophical foundation of a free society.
As someone pointed out to me, in America there is a tight relationship between the people and their government. The government is actually afraid of the people, because there are millions of us who do own firearms including auto and semiauto firearms. The rationale of citizen gun rights is not only philosophical in that the citizen is sovereign and that government answers to him, and not only practical in allowing people to defend themselves and others, but is also preventative of future attempts by tyrants to take over. No tyrant would dare try that in America, where there are so many millions of armed citizens.
It is future protection, and creates a background state of fear of the citizenry, which is very important as a deterrent. Gun ownership is also important psychologically since it reaffirms that an individual is sovereign and that rights belong to him, not the state, and that he is a free individual with self-responsibility and the ability every day to exercise that and demonstrate it through responsible firearm ownership. The fact that some people abuse their rights doesn’t speak at all to the vast majority who do not.
But no, crazy leftist traitors want to strip everyone of guns, converting the citizenry into second class citizens before the first class of government. They want humans to be sheep, unable to take personal responsibility and safety into their own hands.
I don’t need a government to give me the right to own weapons, I have that right naturally. It exists in my capacity to defend myself and my need for doing so. I can choose for myself, my rights do now flow from the state. Any society that allows itself to be disarmed by its government is literally no better than sheep in a kennel. Not free human beings, but slaves. Look at European countries that have strict gun control, and look at how little actual political power the citizens there have. They don’t even have free speech, they can’t even maintain borders, their laws are written by super national bureaucrats whom none of them voted for.
That sort of thing is what you get when you allow your own government to strip you of the natural right to own the means of defending yourself and others. Psychologically once you concede on that fundamental issue you are done for, everything else eventually goes.
So no wonder leftists want to disarm us. They are all about turning humans into compliant sheep who always do what they’re told and never bite the hand that feeds. Lol. What a disgrace. How embarrassing to even be on this planet with such filth running around fucking everything up.
Want someone to blame for school shootings? Blame the criminal himself who commits the act. Oh no, that doesn’t allow you to use it for political purposes for your own power and control!! Or you can blame the FBI who failed over and over and over again to stop people whom they actually knew were real threats.
But no, that would also… bite the hand that feeds. Leftists would never bite the hand of their statist globalist masters.
Delta deciding not to offer a discount on flight for NRA members shits all over the constitution?
Is that what you’re saying?
Did you just try to base your unhinged rant on the notion that not receiving a discount on a flight somehow denies someone the right to bear arms?
Are you ok? Look…there are good arguments to be made for what it is your feeling. But reason first, then make the argument. Don’t just get all emotional and vomit out the sort of shit that you just did.
Prove me wrong? What are you 17? Take your meds and settle down.
I think I attended my first gun show in the early 80s…when I was still in a diaper. I’ve surely been to 100s of them. I’ve owned, bought, sold and traded what must have been 100s of guns over the years. I reloaded my own ammo for years. I’ve fired tens of thousands of rounds…at least. That being said, I’ve also been listening to the gun control debate since before you were probably born.
Here’s how it works. Something terrible happens because of a person who has a gun. Then, the gun dealers who are all right wing anti-democracy people…they raise hell and tell a bunch of lies about how all the guns are going to dry up. Then, they raise their prices and gouge you idiots for more money, thus enriching themselves in the process off your irrational fear. Here’s a few facts for you. There is nothing that you could buy since I was a little kid that you haven’t been able to buy this entire time, and that you weren’t able to buy at any time between now and then. Nothing. If anything the selection of guns and types of ammo have increased over the years and the availability of them has significantly increased. Even NFA guns can be had by anyone willing to purchase a tax stamp. You can form a trust and be the sole administrator of it and the trust can own NFA weapons without you even having to take the background check.
Idiot. You know jack shit about the facts. When I was a teenager, you could get a crate of 20 sks’s for 2000 bucks. Still in the plastic bags soaked in cosmoline. When Clinton took office, the right winger NRA nutjobs raised hell about the NFA, and the price of the sks went to nearly 300 bucks. A lot of people made a lot of money off that alone, and it wasn’t the idiots who were rushing out to pay 300 bucks for cheap Chinese piece of shit rifles because they believed that they wouldn’t be able to get a semi-auto rifle once Clinton banned all the guns.
Guess what? You can still buy them. You can buy a cetme or an HK, you can get an fnfal, you can get a fucking M1 from the US government if you fill out the forms and submit them…at a discount and you’ve always been able to do that. There are so many companies making M4 style rifles now that you can choose from 20 different manufacturers, or you can build your own if you buy a lower receiver for 150 bucks. You can go to a fucking hardware store and buy 2 pieces of pipe, a coupling, a bag of rubber bands and a nail and make a gun in 5 minutes without asking anyone.
Seriously. Have you ever considered any of these facts? Or do you just think in terms of your emotions and then spew out rants that are based entirely in fiction?
Civilian Marksmanship Program
thecmp.org/cmp_sales/
Online classifieds for guns.
armslist.com/
Get an fucking FFL if you want and you don’t even have to pay transfer fees. Hell you can collect fees for transferring guns between others. Make some money.
atf.gov/resource-center/how … easy-steps
Now you can have some facts and calm down, stop repeating fallacious political rhetoric and realize that no one is, or ever has infringed on your rights.
I think urgod is one of those easily triggered people. A prime example of someone who shouldn’t have a gun. Look at how crazy he went over the idea that a right wing politician might have openly admitted to selling his vote to a special interest group. Insane. He thinks that not giving a discount on a flight hinders one’s ability and right to bear arms.
A hot headed, easily triggered guy who’s cool with corruption and doesn’t reason from emotion rather than form his emotions as a result of reasoning.
Yeah…he shouldn’t be armed.
Now that’s a good post!
Maybe lose the:
And the:
No need for that example.
Should probably add a warning about:
You don’t want to be caught with that.
Olololll
It’s a fact that the dude doesn’t know about the facts, so there shouldn’t be a problem with stating that unless you mean that we ought not state facts.
There’s a long running debate in philosophy as to whether reason ought be the slave of passion or vice versa. I assumed that everyone knew all about that since it’s 101 level stuff. If you think it’s not relevant to point out when someone is doing it wrong, then you’ve should explain why. Stuff isn’t wrong just because you don’t like it. And if you want to have passion first and then reason from it, then go and be an artist.
Always believe clickbait titles and “revealed” truth in general.
Because of course there is only a single simple reason for issues such as mass shootings and those performing the shootings are typically leftist with their gun fetishes and fantasies of fame or infamy?!
FC, I used to regard you as a thinker - what happened? Since I returned you’ve turned into this alt-right sensationalist mouthpiece - I am presuming this is an extension of some profound ethical insight that you should turn out this way?
He’s upset about the erosion of European culture that’s resulting from mass migrations of Arabs out of places that the US is bombing. He thinks that Trump has got the right idea, but he’s not connecting the dots about the differences between American and European cultures on the ground.
Like if your city had been overrun by people from someplace else and your government, or the people there were too weak to stop it, and you were super proud of your homeland and your culture the way some Europeans are, then you’d be pretty pissed off. But the US isn’t being overrun, and the government here is strong enough to stop it from getting out of hand, and the people of the US don’t care too much about the esoteric aspects of culture in the way that Europeans do. So from his perspective Trump is good, even though Trump is actually very bad for the US.
UrGod, what are you doing? CNN hasn’t been mentioned in this thread, much less cited.
It’s a bit ironic to use a tribal non-sequitur to lay allegations of “spin”.
He’s failing to respond to the posts and attempting to derail a thread.
Not at all, I am making a point about intellectual dishonesty. I am entirely unsurprised that the point went over all of your heads.
Nothing funnier than watching an idiot pretend to be the smart guy in the room.
Go ahead and make an actual argument and we will see who the idiot is.
I suppose that is why you never make any… actual arguments.
Like the one you just responded to with a picture of a washing machine?
Post a meme to win an argument, Smears.
You can’t post arguments on the basis of pointing to obvious differences between figurative and literal interpretations.
All that’s achieved in that case is a regression to duality, of whose basis is usually grounded in emotionalism.
And emotionalism takes away from effective communication.