The Philosophers

Yes, God is mad.
Not crazy, but always angry.
God is Aries, the spring equinox.
Friendly flowers afforded by a will to squander the lives of billions.

The question I believe is whether wars that may come are going to be proper vehicles for philosophical will. This is at least how I approach politics. It works when there is a crisis.

I am fortunate to live in a country involved in a sophisticated war of tastes and ideologies inside the worlds apex military alliance. This allows a politician, and a philosopher is first of all that, a lot of leverage. Whenever there is need to act, it is possible when you are a citizen of a first world country. You matter.

Honestly speaking, there is only Europe, since it includes Russia, and the USA. China doesn’t actually have a marketable culture at this time. And California has usurped most of what is marketable of the past millennia so they aren’t even required for the generation of their own culture in as far as it matters. Japan also matters but forms no threat to anyone.

I believe that not liking Heidegger is a symptom of a hatred of the slowness of power.

Everything that has been built of mere ambition is flimsy. What is built of reverence for nature, human nature especially as it includes fear of its own power, is eternal in as far as human life is concerned.

Individualism as assuming anyone to be one is nonsense. As soon as a person is alone he is no longer a person but a world, that is to say an animal and a god. If he is a person, he is not given to himself. Individuality is possible but it requires a lot of interactions around truth and power, thus with a lot of love and pain, to have been successfully completed, so as for a world to have been established on this emerging individuals terms.

Violent and dismissive patriarchy is a surrogate for this privilege, what actually affords the power to be an individual is a thing like the Senate of an internationally feared and respected nation. First World (Roman) Government is built not to govern those who are taxed, but for some people to actually be someone.

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Oh yeah and save the whales. But thankfully we’ve actually grown a conscience there. We did good work in the 80s. Oil disasters and sea mammal butcheries happen but people now tend to not like them. I wonder if bees are still all dying. That could kill most of us. Small things. Devils in details.
Still a lot of animal right work is to be done.
Humans can never be without sickness as long as dearth in animal spirit governs our appetites.
All is going in the right way. Except most people.
But as usual, they will follow whatever the cloudgatherer commands.

Capable if you are reading this -
what I meant was for all animals that are slaughtered for food to be first sanctified to a god.
I believe this may have been the real reason for animal sacrifice. To deal with the fact of killing, do justice to the life you take.

Be flattered that I think you matter.
All the rest is chatter.
break bread, take cheddar
make, break, make better

Blaze gunner, fake stake up-runner fun nun fucker, trucker, stop at the head-light, big eyes raised heads fright speeds pace or freezes, lazy eels are geezers in Chinese restaurants making bets about the death of Jesus.

Please eat meat from green fields with beer treated steers or beat it
Im excellent like Jackson I need it said by a claxon

Ive been to Germany and back, too many vermin in the Burger King

Haha
yeah

Ive been to Germany and returned, too many vermin in the Burger King
first things first, eternally
Or KFC
its the same to me
soggy chicken
no crisp given
parking lot litter
no dinner

dead winter, sad bread winner
on the verge of sinning
of planning some action
stage an attraction to gain traction
fame wagon, blame Bob Saget

Zoot talking to his mom about Nietzsche
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time for breakfast

After reading a mail from Capable this morning something pretty cool occurred to me.

The three people that at this point grasp VO as to be able to work with it with graceful ease that is natural to it are Vikings. Their hearts belong to Odin. Or in the case of the third, her heart belongs first to Thor.

The three of us draw runes. The three of us have a rather violent temper.

Fuck it.

VO is for people of Odin.
VO is a Hyperborean wisdom.

The strongest of hearts.

I don’t even know why this did not occur to me before.

Hail Heimdall!

Sharpening our blades on a strength that never fades
We will be remembered as you recede into the shades

It is good like this.

I invoke Heimdall for several reasons.
Most of which will of course remain undisclosed
But one of them is Hagalaz, the rune of the Abyss.

Let him listen who has ears.

You forgot to mention that God is also perpetual projection.

What Mitra is building is an Indo Aryan adaption of it. Also a shamanism, a wisdom.
Fair to say we have surpassed the love of wisdom as a yearning, and become its own self-love.

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Yes.

And this, “Individuality is possible but it requires a lot of interactions around truth and power, thus with a lot of love and pain, to have been successfully completed, so as for a world to have been established on this emerging individuals terms.”

^ crystal clear truth. nothing else need be said on that subject.

VO is the furnace that only the hardest ceramal-souled golems can withstand, the heat only makes them stronger and gives them energy while it melts everyone else. Will to power is just a littl trick of conception made to grow a perspective like a Venus fly trap set over a stinking bog, that some potentially free flying little thing might become trapped in its jaws. Trapped so it has to fight for once. Separate itself from the swamp, feel a path-os of distance.

VO is so simple and obvious that people hate it, can’t deal with it, it’s honest and obvious simplicity obliviates all the complex sophisticated nonsense people use every day to try and justify shit to themselves. Mostly themselves, the shit they try to justify to themselves is themselves. Lolskek

But I love humans, they are earthy and pure in their impurities and silly denials. Vanity is beautiful, especially in a female who knows how to smile. VO places oneself above even the need to fight, you become like Bruce Lee and already win every fight before it begins, so you can just stand there and smile when some dumb fuck comes up to you with loud voices and nonsense gestures of the face and hands. Language. Supposedly. Haha.

THOR

Well, to the extent that internet philosophy comes to reflect one or another rendition of Will Durant’s “epistemologists”, certainly.

On the other hand, given the seeming profound limitations embedded in philosophies revolving around the question, “how ought one to live?”, when has it ever not been essentially futile?

Okay, another “general description” of…what exactly? What is the “hope” that we should strive for in an is/ought world that [in my view] revolves around dasein, conflicting goods and political economy? Excellent in regard to what particular contexts we might all be familiar with?

At least insofar as any particular subjective/subjunctive rendition of “this is how we ought to live” is relevant to the behaviors we choose.

But that of course is where the objectivists almost never go.

Really? Cite a couple of posts on this thread that, in your opinion, exemplifies this. From my perspective, he pops up on the thread spouting these obtuse, elliptical “observations” that I myself find particularly difficult to integrate into the world of actual human interactions.

On the other hand, to the best of my knowledge, he chose to create a thread called The Philosophers and put it in the Non-Philosophical Chat forum. Perhaps his whole intent here is just an exercise in irony.

My brother.

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Wow, this guy is righteous.

Oh yeah.

I wish I lived in Massachusetts so I could vote for him.

With the new speck-a-dust version of Pezer, lemme just say that this “flurrying of valuing” that I enthused over has nothing to do with VO itself, as self-valuing is about power, not about flurrying. But then a speck of dusts will to power, probably, is the experience of a flurry.

Pure self-valuing is what you see in Napoleon and Caesar, as well as Nietzsche, but it also got pretty pure in Goethe.
Self-Valuing means to be the catalyst of the transformation of ones environment and the model for its eventual form.

Butterflies will still self-value as a flurry of encountering. But neither as we can understand the Will to Power through butterflies alone, nor can we understand VO through a speck of dust.

(Always better than traitor)

“Self-Valuing means to be the catalyst of the transformation of ones environment and the model for its eventual form.”

Well put, I agree. All being tries to do this, there are countless overlapping spheres of this going on at all tiers of existence. Learn how to negotiate those tiers and separate elements, as Trump did, and you change the world. By creating a “butterfly effect” that is so much more than mere flurrying.

In other words, well put as a “general description” of human interactions. Well, providing those who embrace it share your own moral and philosophical values. Or, as I prefer to put it, existential prejudices rooted in dasein, conflicting goods and political power.

On the other hand, there are any number of objectivists around who share this rendition of an intellectual scaffold but insist that only those who share in turn their own political prejudices are qualified to become “one of us”.

Thus there are folks here at ILP who hold in contempt folks like Satyr over at KT. They both hold Liberals/Leftists in contempt but are outraged all the more that others do not hold them in contempt for the Right Reasons.

And, in turn, there are the Liberals/Leftists who hold Conservatives [and Trump] in contempt yet are far more outraged at those in their own political camp who refuse to hold them in contempt for [once again] the Right Reasons.

But trust me: Sooner or later someone from your political camp notes something that does not entirely fit into your own rendition of The Whole Truth. At KT they have a “dungeon” for that. And I’ve always championed the idea of creating one here.

A dungeon for the fiercest of objectivists. I’d even volunteer to moderate it. :wink:

Yes.
I took Pezer as referring to an initial liberating effect of approaching VO from a distance. Then, he turned out to think he had actually penetrate into VO.
BWAHAHAHA
Noobs crack me up. Always insisting on retaining their noobileness.

Anyway, bitches and boys across the internet forum philosophy, all they talk about now is that VO exits. How it is so mean to them. How they can’t understand it. How it tries to make them think. Terrible. All great things must first wear monstrous masks. Thought is perhaps the greatest thing.

I should feel compassion for these feeble chickenhearts. But really, my compassion goes out to real humans that dare to exist, and have to endure all this fucking crap from the pseudo-entities they’ve tried to ennoble.