My Surrogate Activities.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0E0ynyIUsg[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcKxMoJB4L0[/youtube]

Where’s Turkey in the whole Syrian debacle? Oh that’s right, here they are.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJyUUBzUlPM[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DohRa9lsx0Q[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93lOzFy0qGg[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO-t9rYJ3qw[/youtube]

Can’t believe they’re still trying to detain and arrest Julian Assange on bullshit charges in the United Kingdom, the man is a hero or legend much like Edward Snowden.

Land Of The Free. :laughing:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHl1rYpXWis[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBLbrJxGtro[/youtube]

@Zero Sum

We’re both isolationists then.

Things would just get worse, in all likelihood, we’d go from being wage slaves to outright slaves, or serfs.
And even if he was a relatively benevolent dictator, sooner or later one of his successors would be a Caligula, Nero or Commodus, but with post-modern tech at their disposal.
A madman with super viruses and nuclear weapons might unleash them upon his own people or the people of other nations, instigating WW3, and since he has absolute power, no one could legally oppose him, and if he’s a cunning psychopath, he might be able to quietly kill off, remove or extradite any senator or general who may oppose him.

Or the elite could just agree they don’t need 98% of us anymore, and find creative ways to exterminate most of us and more thoroughly enslave the remaining few, until they can be replaced by robots.
The elite already seem to be working on exterminating us, but with absolute political power, it’d make it 10 times easier for them.

No I want more of a say over my government, not less, and even if it’s likely we’ll have less, I’ll still be opposed to it, I’ll always be opposed to my own slavery, or servitude, however inevitable it might be.

The last thing most dictators want is an educated, freethinking pubic.

And if he’s a Augustus Caesar Or Marcus Aurelius, you might get that, for a while, but conditions for the masses of asses are likely to get worse in the long run.

I’m also not a racial purist or separatist, but would like to see the overall culture and genetics remain European, in European and postcolonial countries, such as in Canada and the States.
Not necessarily because I think we’re superior, but just because I tend to prefer my own.
I have no hatred or extreme dislike of other races, and I think we all have strengths and weaknesses, in fact sometimes our greatest strengths can be our greatest weaknesses, like European industriousness and ingenuity may ultimately be our undoing, we may overproduce and consume ourselves into oblivion, but on the other hand, we may allow hostile peoples or factions within them to take advantage of our generosity, to the point where they attempt to supplant us on our own soil, so we have to be careful about who we let in here.
I’m either for reducing the quantity of immigration and increasing the quality, importing people who’re most compatible with us, or eliminating immigration altogether, but the people who’re already here, be they Africans or Asians can stay, so long as they’re loyal.

Yes, a kind of Caesar Augustus, Marcus Aurelius, Frederick The Great, or even Napoleon Bonaparte is what I would think of great chancellors. What part of national socialism do you not understand? The major mission would be to maximize people’s economic, social, and individual independence within the wise periphery of the chancellor’s overseeing.

If a horrible chancellor comes to power there is simply a violent coup in which they’re replaced with somebody else more capable of serving the people. That would only be reinforced in the back of mind of every chancellor serving.

Look at democracy where everybody is said to have a say in their government, do you really feel empowered having a say in anything? Education would be state run and operated education. :wink:

I am a racial separatist but not a 100% purist. Agreed with what the rest of you said. :wink:

Zero Sum

I was humoring you before.

What’s more likely to happen is we’d wind up like Helots and the ‘chancellor’ and his army like Spartans.
They’d turn up the heat incrementally, working us harder and stripping us of what little rights and freedoms we have left, all in the name of making us and the state safer and more secure.
They’d divide and rule us, quickly quash any attempt to militarily, or intellectually organize ourselves and oppose them.

This is how they did things in Russia, China, North Korea and so on, and that is what your chancellor or his successors will subject us to, but it’ll be worse, because the economic and technological disparity between the elite and the masses is accelerating at an alarming rate.
Removing the few armaments, rights and freedoms we have, will allow them to more thoroughly subjugate the masses than any elite ever has before in history, many times over, to the point where we’re nothing more than cattle, and cattle have no hope of rebelling against their human overlords.

But the elite won’t be enslaving us to consume us, they’ll be making preparations to incrementally replace us with machines, machines, that have no agency, that won’t complain, cry out or resist, that have an off button.
Maybe a few of us will survive, and be kept as pets, or in zoos.

Perhaps a national socialist dictatorship could’ve, kind of worked out, at least for a time in previous centuries, but with the economic and technological disparity we have now, it’s absolutely paramount we cling to whatever power we have left, and attempt to increase it as much as possible.
No what we need is either anarchy, direct democracy, or perhaps a philosophical oligarchy, with some democratic checks and balances just in case, but I’d rather have the system we have now than the one you propose, which’d be an absolute nightmare of epic proportions.

I have some say, I can own a gun, I can say whatever I want, I can work for whomever I please, I can pick up and move from one place to another.
I don’t want the government to have the power to imprison or execute me just because it doesn’t like me or my politics.

To reiterate, I would partly or fully nationalize the food, textile and housing industries, all essential industries (furniture, appliances…), then I’d hire every able bodied unemployed person to work in them, part-full time (15-30 hours a week) for high wages (30-45 dollars an hour), producing cheap (more than halve food, clothing and housing prices), quality (whole foods, cotton/wool clothes) products.
I’d do all this not by taxing the rich, but by government printing its own debt free money, circumventing the central banks.
I think it’s stupid education and healthcare have been nationalized, but food, clothing and housing haven’t, when the latter are just as, if not more essential.

As for seniors and the disabled, of course they’d be taken care of, better than they are today.
Right, shouldn’t be any homeless, every person who can’t work should have a decent home and food to eat, and every person who can should have a decent job, no exceptions.
I don’t have a problem with drug addicts, so long as their addictions aren’t keeping them from working.
If they want help from the government, they’ll have to get off the drugs, at least enough so they can work, otherwise, forget it, they can remain homeless.

I got a flu shot and I didn’t get the flu.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyuAr58s2x0[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTO73FCIE2M[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIbKgZaDynM[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN4rqlcqb8o[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vObp0vBDOY[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixPPdXBQbK8[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNxPE7LQXN0[/youtube]