I am none the wiser but as this thread is about God and not phenomena I will leave it there
However I do not think the notion of absolute perfection can be applied to anything natural
But I’m kind of curious about in what sense the speed of light is NOT absolutely prefect. Has any experiment ever been performed that found the actual speed of light to be wrong?
Perfection requires a comparison between something and a standard.
If something is unique, then it’s possible to say that there is nothing with which it can be compared. Therefore every unique thing can be considered perfect.
Of course, it’s possible to set up an ideal which the unique thing should be. But where does that “should” come from? Ought the thing really be some other way than it actually is?
Everything in the universe can be considered unique and perfect.
If something is not unique, then it satisfies some definition. Any cat which meets the dictionary definition of “cat” can be considered perfect. The world is full of perfect cats and trees and flies …
The something may also be suitable for fulfilling a function or requirement. For example, a glass may be considered perfect for taking a drink of water - it’s flawless in doing so.
So again, this is a discussion about what a word means. It means slightly different stuff to different people and in different contexts.
You still have not explained what is so perfect about it in your opinion. Does the notion of perfection apply
to every phenomena or just the three you mentioned. Can you give any examples of imperfect phenomena
The speed of light in vacuum may be absolute but that does not mean that it is perfect too
The notion of perfection you are assigning to it is purely arbitrary and not really necessary
If something does in fact exist in a wholly determined universe, then anything that does in fact exist could not have existed in any other way. And that would include any exchanges we have here about perfection.
Or take living organisms that interact entirely in sync [instinctively] with the biological imperatives built into the evolution of life on earth. The lion may well not bring down the wildebeest but in what sense can we say it behaved imperfectly?
But once we shift gears from mindless matter to matter able to acquire some level of autonomy, perfection would seem to revolve around what we think that means in any particular context.
If I go bowling and, in a single game, roll 12 strikes in a row that is clearly perfection. If I am Don Larsen pitching in the World Series and no one on the opposing team gets on base in the nine inning game, I have pitched a “perfect game”.
Here you simply can’t perform better than perfection.
But, most crucially, it is able to be calculated objectively because it revolves around that which we all agree is perfection.
But how on earth would we even begin to establish that which constitutes perfection in God?
What are we all required to accept as the “rules” here? How do we calculate it other than by clumping together a collection of more or less academic premises and insisting perfection necessarily revolves around everyone accepting them?
My thinking – “proof” – about God and perfection…compared to yours?
It would be better to say that the speed of light in vacuum is absolutely consistent rather than absolutely
perfect because consistency can quite easily be measured whereas perfection can not be measured at all