End of the World

The world would be better off without science??
Without science we would still be living in caves, struggling to survive like wild animals…
I agree that religion has caused many problems.

Homo sapiens will become extinct sooner or later.
Even if we collonise other space-masses, life as we know it will become impossible with the heat-death of the universe…

Why would it if such a thing we’re real? So far we have 2800+years of absence and non-intervention to match from this entity you believe exists.

It’s a bit pointless to speculate about the end if you are unaware of the cause of continuance.

The only thing equally delusional or destructive to religion is the belief in scientific progress and innovation. In my mind we were better off as primitive animalistic savages living off the ignorant bliss and bounty of nature.

Yes, our extinction is an inevitability and no matter of prayer, self determination, or science is going to change any of that. This is the realization that most refuse to accept, the natural inevitability of total annihilation to everything.

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What precisely do you believe has been causing the continuation of homosapian?

I don’t understand your question.

Certainly you believe that everything has a cause (else you would have no reason to believe that an end would be immanent). Whatever it is that has been causing homosapian to continue existing would have to be removed or defeated in order for homosapian to stop continuing. To speculate that homosapian is going to soon end implies that you see the cause of his continuance going away or being defeated.

So what is it that is causing homosapian to continuing existing in the first place?

You can’t just look at the fact that people keep pulling water out of the well and presume that soon the well must be empty. You have to also look into what is filling the well from deep below the surface. It is the balance between those that determines if and when the well goes dry.

I believe civilization will destroy itself, what is so complicated in understanding any of that?

The verdict is still out on whether that will create a human extinction level event or not.

Some fill the well here with God, others with science.

But no one is able to connect the dots down through time such that they are able to arrive at an explanation [encompassed empirically] for the existence of existence.

An explanation that accounts for, among other things, dark matter, dark energy, and all that the human mind cannot yet even fully grasp about the “parts” before the Big Bang. The part, for example, where everything that now exists in a universe vast beyond comprehending came into existence out of nothing at all.

Stuff like this: iflscience.com/physics/top-1 … s-science/

Or just google “mysteries of science”: google.com/search?q=mysteri … ce&ie=&oe=

The stuff that more or less revolves around… “But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don’t know we don’t know.”

And that’s before we get to the part about teleology.

Some however are able to “think” an explanation into existence.

They concoct out of words a world that is wholly understood merely by “analyzing” it into existence. A “theory of everything” nestled “intellectually” in their head.

And the more certain they are of it, the more certain you can be that they will never back down.

And this of course takes us to the mysteries embedded in human psychology itself. Mindful matter in and of itself is something of a miracle.

So, use that in imagining the existence of God.

Besides, as some suggest, what have you got to lose?

Civilization has been doing that for thousands of years, yet continues.

And it will stay “out” until someone bothers to examine what is causing it to continue.

One idea concerning the continuance of civilization is the teleological argument for a force that drives evolution in ways beneficial to man. Will this force lead on to some final consummation for humans? If not, what is its purpose? If there is no such force, people might as well not believe in any religion.

Evolution has no guiding direction as it is sporadically random. There is no higher purpose of anything beyond simple survival and procreation.

Without teleology there is no reason for religion. A billion or so believers think there is . Some of the believers are even evolutionists. Subtract purpose from existence and you deny it has meaning.

All I see is random existence fluctuating everywhere and with chaotic random manifestations of being not only is purpose redundant but also it isn’t even necessary. So yes, I am largely anti teleological.

Without teleology creative evolution is a myth. Why create anything if there is no meaning or purpose to life.
Even Dawkins suggests that altruism is an evolutionary plus. So how do you explain a universe in which survival and procreation are not the sole motivators of human activity?

If that is what you see, how could you even find out or know that you are largely anti-teleological? That perception that is all noise, no signal. How do you even decide what is you, let alone what qualities that you really has?

When you look at the world you see altruism, where exactly?

There is of course uncertainty everywhere but the difference between me and others is that I don’t attribute that to an absentee God.