Unwarn me, I was falsely warned for no reason.

Perhaps. But I suggest that both frames of mind are largely existential contraptions that can be discussed intelligently somewhere between a “wall of words” and “cartoon characters”.

And most folks seemed clearly to understand that on my thread. However, your own contribution stands out like a sore thumb. And, sure, while that can be either a good thing or a bad thing, don’t expect everyone to share your own assessment.

Again, perhaps. But Satyr is not a child. And I am not a child. And while we have both become Kids on occasion, the thrust of his thread [and my reaction to it] revolved around certain “adult” assumptions that are made regarding genes and memes in human interactions.

Whether on train going 300 mph or standing in one spot.

It’s like we were exchanging actual substantive thoughts [if at a distance] and you came along and started doodling obscenities.

Or so it seemed to me.

Not my fault if I move too fast to follow along.
Slow down.

I didn’t watch the videos, but the post seemed like a good one.

Thankyou, finally someone understands. :slight_smile:

Why is Trixie permabanned from ILP? Was there a particular post as a crucial factor?

When did that happen?

Three or four days ago, as far as I know.


Trixie was banned four days ago and now posts at Philosophy Now

The question reamains: Why followed this permaban?


A member is automatically permabanned after receiving six suspensions which she already had

I thought that the question was, why there was that warning at all. :bulb:

Is there an appeals process for this? Surely we aren’t summarily exiling people on strict liability for simply having too many infractions.

When I was a teenager, you could get a speeding ticket, and just go and pay it, and you could go right back out and speed again, and when you got another ticket, you just paid it. If you had the money, you could have the freedom to speed. That’s some real American shit right there. But then one day they started with a point system where when you get the ticket, you have to pay, and you get some points on your license. Too many points too fast, and they take your license for a while. Happened to me a handful of times. It really sucked, seemed totally oppressive, and inhibited my freedom as an American who likes to drive fast.

She is banned. The ban rules were recently updated here:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=167245
There’s no appeals procedure in place, as you know.

As I understand it from her user notes, it was for ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.ph … 8#p2683698 and (predominantly) the subsequent postings.

The ban was not specifically for those posts, but the general behaviour: she had 11 warnings in the past 2 years. At a certain point signal:noise ratio comes into consideration, as adjudged by the moderators.

If it had been for that posting and the subsequent postings, then the two who posted in that thread before Ultimate Philosophy 1001 would have been permabanned for a very, very long time.

It’s all politics of course. Except for the parts that are not.

And Trixie was a Kid. Except for the times s/he wasn’t. And who knows where the “real” Trixie ends and the personas begin.

I’m not entirely certain where that is applicable even to myself.

Personally, I’m against anyone being permanently banned from ILP. A forum should be created similar to the dungeon at KT. Only members would be permitted to visit.

Trixie, AutSider, Satyr, Lyssa et al were all capable of contributing posts that [while rubbing many the wrong way] provoked thought.

Sure, breaking the rules, huffing and puffing and being deemed an asshole should be reason enough to get you booted from all the other forums. And politics will always be in play here.

But why not set aside a forum for the more extreme opinion.

So you are also saying that the issue is handled in a very unfair/unjust way.

Maybe you want to read the following threads:

UP1001, on behalf of a bunch of people here who would probably disagree with the notion of me speaking on their behalf, you are now officially unwarned and they’re all sorry for their wrongs.

I suspect that Autsider is already back and you will be able to enjoy his quality posts again. :smiley:

now let me state at the outset, I dislike Trixie
and her many disjointed and confused posts…
however, with that said, banning someone is by its
very nature, subjective… who are we to say, you are allowed
to post and you aren’t…one might say the rules… but
the rules themselves are subjective, subject to change and
interpretation…I do believe that ILP is better off without
Trixie but, I don’t think that any sort of ban is the answer…

if offer a choice, I would vote to allow her to remain…
for the simple reason, that for us to learn, we must allow all
post, all voices to engage, otherwise we risk just having voices
that we approve of and that fit into OUR narrative…
contrary voices, voices we don’t approve of, piss us off, granted
but they are voices we must hear because they do offer us
other options, options we might not be aware of otherwise…

for the truth is not just voices we approve of or that fit into our narrative,
the truth lies in many different voices and we must allow those voices
to be heard… to silence one voice, EVEN IF DONE FOR THE RIGHT REASON,
says something about us louder then we may want to hear…

we will let you speak if only you say what we want to hear

and is that the message ILP really wants to be?

Kropotkin