Listen Arc, what you do on your meditation time is your own business. Just remember to wipe your mouth when your done. 
Which ‘we’? The one that’s awake or the one that’s asleep.
Thanks for the feedback. I’m glad it’s getting across because it isn’t easy to simplify this stuff and skirt around the language traps.
Just remember that this isn’t my philosophy. This is an outline of non-dualism. I’m not selling anything.
In the end, non-dualism is about experience (wrong word but that’s language again). It’s not an intellectual philosophy. It’s just a pointer for those who are willing and brave enough to make the leap…
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The experience of not knowing you’re Awake is exactly the same as not being Awake.
An anorexic woman doesn’t have a weight problem but believes she does so she experiences the world as though she’s a fat woman.
A hypochondriac doesn’t have health issues but he believes he has so he experiences life as though he was a sick, dying man.
Rephrasing your question, you could say that these people are healthy, except they’re sick and you’d be right. They’re physically healthy but psychologically sick.
The non-duelists say we are Awakeness Itself – not some ‘thing’ that is Awake – but we identify as some ‘thing’ we’re not and thus experience life accordingly. You could say, we’re Awake spiritually but asleep psychologically.
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Awakeness is who you are (Consciousness).
Awakeness is what you are at the most fundamental level. It’s what’s behind all the images you’ve had of yourself over your lifetime. Awakeness is not something ‘you’ get or have; if so, who is the one getting it? It would mean the ‘you’ who gets Awakeness (or Enlightenment) is prior to, and greater than, Awakeness itself.
By saying ‘being Awake is just being Awake’ I was saying Awakeness is the perceiver – not that which is perceived e.g. emotions.
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Think of the Enlightened as having clear minds. The clearer the mind; the clearer the perception and understanding.
Having a clear mind doesn’t mean there are no thoughts or emotions. They do have thoughts and emotions it’s just that the Awake aren’t attached to their thoughts nor do they have fragile egos they need to defend so thoughts pass across their minds like clouds pass across a clear sky.
Those who are Awake are, by definition, more awake, more conscious, more aware than the average person so why would anyone think they might be unaware, unfeeling or zombie-like?
Once again, we have it back-to-front. We are the zombies. We’re the ones who are only partially conscious – Jesus called us the ‘dead’ – so if anyone is less aware, less understanding or doesn’t embrace their full humanity, it’s us.
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A part of the Reboot, Restore, Rethink, and Reinvest process:
I don’t know … with any degree of certainty … that I don’t know.
Then you certainly don’t know and have lied.
JSS … so you know I have lied.
So much for your earlier post emphasizing the “I don’t know” phrase. 
(Inner harmony, wisdom, balance, enligthenment) > (truth, facts, knowledge, perception.)
Both are wonderful things, but the group to the left seems more fundamental than the group to the right.
I’ve seen people that read so much, but it is vanity, because they don’t have the “hands” to hold and wield knowledge.
Other people spend a whole life chasing after temporary pleasures, instead of finding the ever-lasting.
Such wisdom =D>
Reminds me of the idiom … “Out of the mouth of babes” … you are so young to “see” this Dan.
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One of my biggest fears is that i wont be powerful enough to handle and survive a life in the spirit world.
Modern humans don’t know what true power is, or what it’s like to live near the bottom of the food chain.
When they think about saving their soul, it is usually a path of theism.
Dan … have you read my latest OP “Individuation”?
Your above comment is precisely why so few people enter the “dark night” voluntarily. To enter the night safely one must be tethered to mighty strong spirits.
Some people get chewed up pretty good in their lifetime(s).
Still largely true today … tomorrow … who knows eh!
Dan, I can even go atheist to be there with you if you need it. The nooks and crannies of the spirit world are vast. I can tell you one thing: people want the best for themselves - when eternal death knocks, nobody answers the door. Never have, never will.
That, and spend a lot of time developing one’s self where possible.
The universe is packed full of spirits. But finding a good one is up to the person in question.
Jung … a life lived extraordinarily well. There is no end to this guys path, and it keeps getting richer. He died like Crowley died, anticipating.
Id say he is the standard for how we should approach the drive to philosophize in ourselves.
I’m going to point out the obvious to people, though they may struggle with the idea…
Churches and marriages are stages of our and others’ evolution…
We’ll always have what we’re true towards, which in a practical sense is mutual experiences of beauty… even those we consider wicked rely on the kindness of others to do these things… once they figure out that this is what’s the important part, they begin to nurture it more and more…