Should a good Christian overthrown God?

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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Ierrellus » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:36 pm

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Ierrellus wrote:"Apokatastis", the reconciliation of all created things with the God who created them is an ancient Christian belief and IMHO the only view of a god whose morality surpasses that of humans. The god who offers heaven and hell as reward or punishment for what humans do is less moral than the humans this god judges. We do not merit an eternity of bliss, nor do we deserve an eternity of torture. We must see beyond the dualism of heaven and hell (see Wm. Blake's "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell") before we can follow the Tao that is Jesus, which is a moral path.


Jesus has more than one morality as there are more than one Jesus who speaks out of scriptures.

The Rome created Jesus is not moral at all while the esoteric mystic is quite oral.

The Jesus you likely recognize, the Roman creation, promotes a no divorce policy for women and substitutionary atonement.

Both immoral concepts.

Care to engage and debate those immoral tenets?

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Why should I waste my time debating tenets some people consider immoral?
The Jesus I recognize is not a Roman creation.
We exist in the last throes of an era of dispersions. I believe the next era will be one of reconciliations.
The concept of ecological morality based on teleological existence is a
far more pressing concern than are divorce or substitutionary atonement.
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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Greatest I am » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:57 pm

Dan~ wrote:Please don't do that.
Imagine if there were people at church, and you run in, open the door, and say "There is no god, retards!"

that is not how a civilized person would handle things.

If you want to make an argument about or against god, that is all well and good.
But this is supposed to be a philosophy forum, not a monkey house.


I agree. It seems that your name calling antagonist is the retarded one.

That or too stupid to answer a simple question.

I quote this to such retarded name calling replies that attack a person instead of the issue at hand.

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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Greatest I am » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:02 pm

Ierrellus wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
Ierrellus wrote:"Apokatastis", the reconciliation of all created things with the God who created them is an ancient Christian belief and IMHO the only view of a god whose morality surpasses that of humans. The god who offers heaven and hell as reward or punishment for what humans do is less moral than the humans this god judges. We do not merit an eternity of bliss, nor do we deserve an eternity of torture. We must see beyond the dualism of heaven and hell (see Wm. Blake's "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell") before we can follow the Tao that is Jesus, which is a moral path.


Jesus has more than one morality as there are more than one Jesus who speaks out of scriptures.

The Rome created Jesus is not moral at all while the esoteric mystic is quite oral.

The Jesus you likely recognize, the Roman creation, promotes a no divorce policy for women and substitutionary atonement.

Both immoral concepts.

Care to engage and debate those immoral tenets?

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Why should I waste my time debating tenets some people consider immoral?
The Jesus I recognize is not a Roman creation.
We exist in the last throes of an era of dispersions. I believe the next era will be one of reconciliations.
The concept of ecological morality based on teleological existence is a
far more pressing concern than are divorce or substitutionary atonement.


Nice that you would ignore these issues which lend to reconciliation towards the second class status of women.

So much for equality in your new world order.

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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby AutSider » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:22 pm

Dan~ wrote:Please don't do that.
Imagine if there were people at church, and you run in, open the door, and say "There is no god, retards!"

that is not how a civilized person would handle things.

If you want to make an argument about or against god, that is all well and good.
But this is supposed to be a philosophy forum, not a monkey house.


To be fair, the church is sustained by the taxes of atheists too. But ok, I'll be nice.

There is no god, and these guys are not necessarily retards, though most probably they are.
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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Ierrellus » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:34 pm

I'm not talking about a new world order. The problems of taught inequality will definitely be dealt with in any reconciliations that lead to a better world than this one now is. Please do not assign to me ideas I do not espouse or even have.
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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:41 pm

if you put women in power, they will treat men like second class citizens and ignore their needs.
if you put men in power, they will treat women like second class citizens and ignore their needs.

There's no easy way to fry this omelette. The only solution, is a hermaphrodite emperor and ruler.
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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Greatest I am » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:10 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:if you put women in power, they will treat men like second class citizens and ignore their needs.
if you put men in power, they will treat women like second class citizens and ignore their needs.

There's no easy way to fry this omelette. The only solution, is a hermaphrodite emperor and ruler.


You might be right, although you have not shown where you view is proven, while I can prove the we had 20.000 years of peace with our Goddesses ruling us before the Bronze age, and have been gifted with 5,000 years of war under the male Gods from then till now. Links upon request.

The thing is, it looks to me like men need to be and are 2nd class while women should be first class. They have more class than men.

Your reply is proof of that. See what testosterone does.

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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:57 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:if you put women in power, they will treat men like second class citizens and ignore their needs.
if you put men in power, they will treat women like second class citizens and ignore their needs.

There's no easy way to fry this omelette. The only solution, is a hermaphrodite emperor and ruler.


You might be right, although you have not shown where you view is proven, while I can prove the we had 20.000 years of peace with our Goddesses ruling us before the Bronze age, and have been gifted with 5,000 years of war under the male Gods from then till now. Links upon request.

The thing is, it looks to me like men need to be and are 2nd class while women should be first class. They have more class than men.

Your reply is proof of that. See what testosterone does.

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I would say your reply is the typical male response of insulting me for no good reason, while mine is the polite and dignified, sensible and reasonable response.
Second of all, like all men you have a simplified outlook of everything, first of all Satyr was right in saying that the Feminization of Man was a bad thing. Men are becoming excessively feminized and lacking spine. This is why hermaphrodites are superior and will always be superior to your kind, they have the nobility of a man but the beauty of a woman...If you think women are noble all on their own then you are delusional. True goddesses are noble, but most women are not goddesses, they are just commoners and self-righteous assholes. If the word hermaprhodite offends you, it is time you grew a spine and a backbone. If you care about hermaphrodites so much why don't you try to ban genital mutilation, because that's what these liberal doctors do in the so-called enlightened age of medicine.
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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Greatest I am » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:46 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:if you put women in power, they will treat men like second class citizens and ignore their needs.
if you put men in power, they will treat women like second class citizens and ignore their needs.

There's no easy way to fry this omelette. The only solution, is a hermaphrodite emperor and ruler.


You might be right, although you have not shown where you view is proven, while I can prove the we had 20.000 years of peace with our Goddesses ruling us before the Bronze age, and have been gifted with 5,000 years of war under the male Gods from then till now. Links upon request.

The thing is, it looks to me like men need to be and are 2nd class while women should be first class. They have more class than men.

Your reply is proof of that. See what testosterone does.

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I would say your reply is the typical male response of insulting me for no good reason, while mine is the polite and dignified, sensible and reasonable response.
Second of all, like all men you have a simplified outlook of everything, first of all Satyr was right in saying that the Feminization of Man was a bad thing. Men are becoming excessively feminized and lacking spine. This is why hermaphrodites are superior and will always be superior to your kind, they have the nobility of a man but the beauty of a woman...If you think women are noble all on their own then you are delusional. True goddesses are noble, but most women are not goddesses, they are just commoners and self-righteous assholes. If the word hermaprhodite offends you, it is time you grew a spine and a backbone. If you care about hermaphrodites so much why don't you try to ban genital mutilation, because that's what these liberal doctors do in the so-called enlightened age of medicine.


I answered as I did because I did not think you were serious or were doing a tongue in cheek.

Now I see that it was more of a lack of couth and intelligence.

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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:15 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
I answered as I did because I did not think you were serious or were doing a tongue in cheek.

Now I see that it was more of a lack of couth and intelligence.

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Well next time answer with more more couth and intelligence.
It's obvious how hermaphrodites are better leaders, someone with awareness and mental experience of both genders.
By hermaphrodite I mean mentally.
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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Greatest I am » Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:54 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
I answered as I did because I did not think you were serious or were doing a tongue in cheek.

Now I see that it was more of a lack of couth and intelligence.

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Well next time answer with more more couth and intelligence.
It's obvious how hermaphrodites are better leaders, someone with awareness and mental experience of both genders.
By hermaphrodite I mean mentally.


I accept your amendment that started all this negativity.

I also disagree with it.

Be it male or female thinking is not what decides on the quality of the thinking. You can have either a dumb or an intelligent thinker be they male, female or hermaphrodite.

Quality of thinking is not based on sexual orientation.

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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:19 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
I answered as I did because I did not think you were serious or were doing a tongue in cheek.

Now I see that it was more of a lack of couth and intelligence.

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Well next time answer with more more couth and intelligence.
It's obvious how hermaphrodites are better leaders, someone with awareness and mental experience of both genders.
By hermaphrodite I mean mentally.


I accept your amendment that started all this negativity.

I also disagree with it.

Be it male or female thinking is not what decides on the quality of the thinking. You can have either a dumb or an intelligent thinker be they male, female or hermaphrodite.

Quality of thinking is not based on sexual orientation.

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A genius can understand how a woman, man and schizophrenic thinks. If a woman only thinks like a woman, and a man only thinks like a man, they are shallow thinkers.
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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Greatest I am » Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:44 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
A genius can understand how a woman, man and schizophrenic thinks. If a woman only thinks like a woman, and a man only thinks like a man, they are shallow thinkers.


You have a peer reviewed source for this do you?

If a genius told you that, he was likely wrong as he could not know he or she was 100% right.

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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:08 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
A genius can understand how a woman, man and schizophrenic thinks. If a woman only thinks like a woman, and a man only thinks like a man, they are shallow thinkers.


You have a peer reviewed source for this do you?

If a genius told you that, he was likely wrong as he could not know he or she was 100% right.

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Go the genius forums.

Genius goes hand in hand with psychopathy.

Because society coddles you with a bucket of delusions and lies.
Not until you see humans as vermin are you a true genius.
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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Greatest I am » Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:51 pm

I do but even my inflated ego does not inflate to where I will brand myself as genius.

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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:57 pm

Greatest I am wrote:I do but even my inflated ego does not inflate to where I will brand myself as genius.

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What does the word genius mean to you?
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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Greatest I am » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:21 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:I do but even my inflated ego does not inflate to where I will brand myself as genius.

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What does the word genius mean to you?


I will go with whatever Webster says. I do not want to redefine well accepted definitions or invent new ones.

What forum would you recommend?

I know quite a number of discussion forums but not a genius one.

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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:52 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:I do but even my inflated ego does not inflate to where I will brand myself as genius.

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What does the word genius mean to you?


I will go with whatever Webster says. I do not want to redefine well accepted definitions or invent new ones.

What forum would you recommend?

I know quite a number of discussion forums but not a genius one.

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Definition of genius for English Language Learners. : a very smart or talented person : a person who has a level of talent or intelligence that is very rare or remarkable. : a person who is very good at doing something. : great natural ability : remarkable talent or intelligence.

Fast forward to where she says "ye of little talent."


The genius forums are a lot of talk, but very little talent.
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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Greatest I am » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:30 pm

Thanks for this.

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Re: Should a good Christian overthrown God?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:31 pm

Greatest I am wrote:Thanks for this.

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You are welcome! :D
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