Know Thyself

You are as designed.

Yes but who designed me as ? Unanswered questions leave open any possibility AS to anything related anything else that may be a transcendent. So the statement ,as you were designed is infective, not reflective as to who you are. It leads to a truism Gertrude Stein would make, or Popeye, I am who I am. It really makes no difference who, or even what I am. Even if, I am programmed to receive.

The Big Sky Daddy of course. Your soul (human souls) was designed right after the solar system (and all systems in the Earth realm) was finished. The story’s in the Old Testament. You are nearly as old as the entire solar system (all Earth realm systems), but don’t look a day over 30 yrs. old. :evilfun: How old is the Earth realm? Millions of years old or older?

Meno…your soul is an ancient immortal design made of God matter. Lifetime after lifetime you have been reborn to discover who you are and who designed you. Astral projecting is your easiest route to discovery. :-" :wink:

But then its all one grand design in the American Indian Sense of.the All Big Spirit, there is a continuum of indiscreet selves that are not themselves making themselves discreet, therefore.the soul can never be discovered as God making each one unique each into themselves. So you blend into me inseparable and unrecognizable to each other for ever and ever. Then the next phase is if you can never really recognize me, then how can I ever know myself, right?

Of course this ‘right’? Is the tickler, because of that irritating uncertainty, right? That can never be an absolute, in that sense, so the anomalie will always stand in the way of true self knowledge. The creator will always be a part of.the creation. Therefore he will become suspect in his participation and.create a mystique, a mystery in his alleged motive to abate loneliness.

Ok, so then what does the sun blowing up in 100 million years have to do with “to have some purpose and pursue it as much as possible and also try to be the best human being that I can be” ?

All it means is that you missed the guess at your purpose.
If you can see the futility of your proposed purpose, that wasn’t your purpose, try again.

Your essence lives each life unchanged. Your soul doesn’t change but your memories are wiped and I wish I knew why. Immortality may be too much to ask of a human soul. We can’t handle knowing it, knowing that we will never end. Maybe God’s lonely so to be merciful to us, we live different human lives throughout eternity. Can a soul ask for death…obliteration…I don’t know?

Have you or anyone be experienced having an obliterated soul? Did they ask for it, or were they condemned to loose it like Faust? Did his deal consisted of knowingly bartering it?

God may not give anyone the choice. He may not believe in killing his offspring even it they beg for it.

Knowing yourself requires not following these silly thousands years old superstitions that cannot even be meaningfully articulated, much less argued for or demonstrated.

Did you notice the Faustian allusion?

Maybe you can be more specific.

I think that it is important to have a sense of perspective and understand that life will not last for ever as we are just passing through
That in no way means one should not strive to make the most of ones own life in the meantime while one still has the chance to do so

Then unlike me, perhaps ,You don’t read widely on ILP ,but don’t worry that consists of no more then 2 or 3 forums.

Faust was much more then bartering wisely, betting on being able not to come up with his side odnthe bargain.
He was more , therefore filling his persona with much more, defining a whole historical essence of MAN. That he bet right ,has become a historical venue of epic proportions.

His persona posits hope to all big time gamblers of the spirit, and it defines an age, within which battle lines are drawn on the battle ground between good and evil

How bold those lines are depends on the nature of barter and negotiation. We are the products of those exchanges, and whereby the threat remains undiminished , the results can be viewed as predictably for the better in any case. Just because third world countries have not developed Faustian conscience, does not mean they cannot learn.

Conscience is not.based on superstition, within unlearned people a mystical participation develops out of sheer necessity.

We can not afford to examine a life worth living apart from early social bonding, it is too late in the day for that.

Not in an age where reality and meta reality are being re-integrated

I know You did not bargain for a long narrative, but Faust is a big page turner.

I was never that impressed, actually.

Like 99% of all people will paint an unrealistic picture of themselves, because of low rationality, exactly why no one can do lawsuits without a lawyer education.

Being reintroduced to myself, but in a different/less-intense light.

MagsJ,

Introductions are at times painful, re-introductions, well, doubly so!

What is depressing is that you claim your myths are truths. And relentlessly so, you’ve been claiming the same myth as a solid truth for years now, immune to logic and reason.

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