Why there is belief in an afterlife

And what was that premonition. And how will you explain it away if is then shown to be false
And do you know of anyone else who has had one which turned out exactly as they predicted

I cannot understand why a soul cannot travel by itself but needs a body to travel in
Especially when something which is way simpler such as a photon can do it so easily

Consciousness is it’s own body, but I’m not sure of what it is made of.

I dreamed that I owned a white dog in a specific unfamiliar location when at the time of the dream, my son was a black dog. Owning a white dog disconcerted me so much that it made me remember that white dog dream. A year and a half or so later, my black dog died unexpectedly, I adopted a white dog, Joker and I met on ILP and moved in together into our own place…and that location was the location in which I saw the white dog for a second time as it actually unfolded as reality.

Let’s ask the folks here if they have had any precognitive/premonition-based experiences that they could share. Any such experiences people of ILP?

You think that consciousness is energy and so is that what it is made from

I like this but for me it is just coincidence and nothing else. You may have had many more dreams where nothing that happened in them had any bearing on reality

How is it a coincidence that I already recognized the dog and the building?

Possibly, but I need to project again to gather more understanding.

Dogs and houses are everyday things so dreaming about them is not unusual. Also you cannot be absolutely certain that the dog and house were exactly the
same as in the dream since they may have been different than what you imagined. You want the dream to be true so will not worry too much about details

I accept that consciousness exists and also that energy exists but not that consciousness is energy
I had no consciousness before I was born so will have none after I die as this is the only life I have
I therefore cannot accept the idea that it is forever but anyway I do not want to even live forever

You cannot leave your mind but you can reach such an altered state of consciousness that you can think you have
Any experience is by definition subjective so just thinking something has happened does not actually mean it has

When one dreams or trips what is happening is simply a mental construct and
nothing else so when one astrally projects what is happening is just the same

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Do you think that I would actually see you leave your body if you started to
astrally project in front of me or would you simply remain within your body

You obviously think this is true but merely asserting something does not make it so. I think what happens to you when you
astrally project is that you experience an altered state of consciousness but your mind or soul do not ever leave your body

This is the only plane/dimension I know of so far where the soul with a meat bag to return to is invisible to a human eye (but white ghostly forms are not unheard of, those are souls too, but I’m not sure why they can be seen only after death). Souls have their own way of seeing when on other planes designed solely for their existence. Like I keep saying souls operate differently than human forms, so no, you wouldn’t see anything, not even me looking like I was dreaming (my eyes wouldn’t do the REM twitching, no sounds would escape my mouth, no movements other than shallow breathing), but I would appear serenely asleep.

Souls without a human bodies may be the only souls visible to the human eyes.

I would like to put you inside an MRI scanner while you were astrally projecting then I could see exactly what was happening inside your brain

The brain is part of the biological human anatomy and not part of the soul’s anatomy, but there might be some kind of noticeable results. The problem with that idea is that no one would know when to start the MRI and it’s too noisy to run non-stop while attempting to project, but there are other medical tests perhaps such as monitoring body temperature, heart rate, sleep REM signals, etc. Plus observance tests the subject could answer on regarding objects placed elsewhere, like what the objects were (and no it wouldn’t be coincidence to get them accurately described)that the subject visited.

I’d really like to make several more attempts to astral, but my psychiatric drugs dampen my energy and my emotions making it impossible now. If I ever find a research team that’s serious about monitoring and testing astral projection, I would temporarily go off my meds to do the experiment successfully.

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What religions?

It is definitely not scriptural, in fact it is referred to as Satanic in the scriptures.

Are you aware of this?