First, you addressed me and now you don’t know. Hello? Next, you’re yelling at me(?) in ALL CAPS without telling me what I did to be accused of such. How have I infringed on you? I’ve asked you this in different words, as in how have I wronged you? You said I didn’t so why are you yelling at me in ALL CAPS about a God that you don’t believe in? Again, nothing I’ve said has been about a qualia, intuition, or epiphany, that’s your department and I have no problem with your trying to make sense out of your life and my life and this big world. The conversation I’ve been having with Erik is about specific questions that are meant to elucidate truth rather than contraptions (as Iambiguous puts it) or misinterpretations found in the OT or NT. Yes, people read stories and then make up their own stories based on what they read, but my questions ask for the logic behind their answers. I noticed how you reworded my question about Lucifer and evil, very liberal of you, but not very nice of you. You cannot help Erik understand God or the Bible for you do not believe in any of it…just saying.
I will just say this and leave it at that.
The ALL CAPS were simply for emphasis.
I like you, Wendy, and for that reason, my personal choice is to leave this alone. It has already gone too far already.
I am detaching from it all, for both our sakes.
You can choose to continue on - but it will be alone.
I wish you Peace.
Okay Arc…Peace. 
It may be that, immersed in progressive evolution, we find it difficult to believe in the final end of personal existence. Instead of believing in extinction we envisage a future of life. This is because lives move forward. In evolutionary terms death amounts to transition; there appears to be no final end. And, too, belief in immortality helps many cope with the hardships of this life.
What if the hardships of this life are meant to aid you, distract you, from the harsh reality of already being an eternal being? Yes, we transition, our soul body sheds the human meat sack and on we go transitioning.
Wendy wrote:
How do you know this?
I’ve asked you this before and you chose not to elaborate.
I would like to know the basis for your belief on this ‘transitioning’.
Quid pro quo, SM (you owe me answers too)
My conscious soul has transitioned away from my human body through astral projection. I’ve discussed this elsewhere on ILP.
We are made up of two bodies (the human meat sack and the conscious soul) that work in tandem while the meat sack remains in shape, but our meat sacks wear out (ages) while our souls do not (wear out or age). Through astral projection, my soul has traveled away from my human body, no longer residing in a certain location within the meat sack. During my travels I visited other planes of existence for souls only (no objects, no meat sacks), locations made purely of emotional energies which could be reckoned with a Heaven of gold feeling like Peace and a Hell of darkness feeling like Hopelessness. I was very awake, very conscious, but not using my physical human body to see, to feel, to experience these happenings and places.
I no longer believe that there is an afterlife, it’s all the soul’s eternal life. Being human (once or repeatedly, the same life looped and/or different lives throughout Earth’s existence) may be a mere distraction from the lot called infinity. Right now, mankind knows nothing of significance regarding their affairs (other than slants found in contradicting history books and research findings/studies, religious books included centering on their meat bag), but I don’t believe that mankind (the meat form) is of significance, our conscious souls are what’s important, but human life distracts 99.9% of the people from truly investigating other possibilities of what we may actually be beyond flesh and blood. In a nut shell, that is your answer.
So where does God fit into all this?
He created us and the Earth plane. Those planes of emotion may be aspects of His consciousness. Souls (which appear white like ghosts) are trapped in Hopelessness. I didn’t see anyone on the Peace plane, but I didn’t look up either and there was more to it above me.
OK
I will do some research into this ‘astral projection’?
Notice too that versions of it are found in most religions.
Do you not think that astral projection is just another higher state of consciousness like all the others
As you can also leave your mind when you meditate or dream or hallucinate so what is the difference
What astral projects is your conscious soul and you never leave your mind, but you do leave your human body. To me, dreams are crazy movies piped in from where, I don’t know, but you aren’t leaving your mind or your body while you are having them, same goes for hallucinations. Not exactly sure about meditation for my process to astral project goes significantly beyond meditation which may be a state of mind before it separates from the physical body.
my thoughts exactly. arc, my consciousness seems to be merging into yours, mind meld as they say.
I have absolutely no interest in meeting any hot woman let alone Aphrodite who was sent here to destroy civilisation
I plan on remaining sane and single till the day I die and then plan on spending the rest of eternity simply being dead
Once again, we have evolved to believe in futures. As for afterlives, I prefer reincarnation as the most morally unobjectionable. It solves the problem of justice deferred.
Asking for proof in such matters is like asking a frog why it cannot speak English.
aphrodite is a fictional character and they were sent here to destroy toxic masculinity and embrace love, not destroy civilization
You can have an acid trip that convinces you you have left your body. You can have a Near Death Experience that does it too. Any altered brain state will. And so
why must astral projection be different? Do you think an observer watching you astrally project would actually see you leave your body? Do you think an observer
watching you trip or have an NDE would actually see you leave your body? I my self can very easily imagine leaving my body without tripping or NDEing or astrally
projecting. But I will still be inside my body when doing so. What is projecting here is the mind and only the mind. The body goes nowhere. It remains where it is
Some special folks believe because they literally see the the future. I have had a brief premonition.
Yes, the mind is the conscious soul and it has its own subtle body that travels outside of the physical body, but once it travels outside of the physical body it is no longer part of the Earth dimension and that is why it is not visible.