Expulsion

I am a software engineer. I work on compilers, interpreters and operating systems. I am against what is called AGI. Simple AI is kind of useful so I am on the fence about that. MI is the one that worries me the most.

I wonder why people need to use sock puppets.

Yes, why?

Had to look up AGI: adjusted gross income or (my favorite) American Gunsmithing Institute. What are AGI and MI?

WendyDarling

Artificial general intelligence (AGI) - also known as strong artificial intelligence.

MI - a reasonably new technology - Machine Intelligence - a model of the Neo Cortex.

When I said simple AI - I was referring to weak AI - the non-sentient kind.

Where’s the tipping point between weak and strong AI? What is the line of code that changes everything? :-k

True weak AI is dedicated to a single task. That makes it a mindless automaton. I do not want to derail your thread.

Yes, we have strayed. I’ll PM any further questions.

WendyDarling

If I may ask . . . who was it that was expelled in 1862? I can read up on it if I know who it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_from_the_United_States_Congress

Hmmm? This is not what the other website, the original site, I investigated said about expulsions. In Wiki, two guys have been expelled since 1862 and the other site said that everybody had resigned before they were expelled. :-k I may have been looking at the Senate and House of Representatives separately. So, two Reps. got expelled, but no Senators…okay, that makes sense.

WendyDarling

Just an FYI - I don’t know a great deal about politics - I am a quick learner though - when I say quick - 3 to 6 months should do it on history and some technical stuff.

I really detest inconsistency between websites - I believe it contributes to some of the ballyhoo of conspiracy BS that we have to put up with. I think the Wikipedia link that you provided will be a good start for me. I will be looking at the references - that is for certain. I am familiar with the Senate and House setup - we have that here. I can also ask in another forum that I am a member of - there is a guy in there that understands this stuff pretty well.

Before you know it, I will be edumacated . . .

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Interesting . . . so even thought we have a Senate and House of Representatives, it seems as though there is a fundamental difference between where I am from and the USA - we follow a parliamentary system, from what I can determine the USA does not. I guess I will find out as I go . . .

:-k

When you tell the AI to do a task and it says, “No.”

Good point - however true weak AI is based on a narrow set of tasks - an automaton(and possibly automata). There is no line of code between weak and strong. Strong must be designed to think for itself - weak can be engineered to say no but then it would not be weak anymore(even that could be debated).

We don’t know … with any degree of certainty … that communication is limited to man-made constructs(ions) such as language.

Hi pilgrim-seeker_tom

I am very interested in what you are saying here.

Communication is defined as follows:

1 ► the imparting or exchanging of information by speaking, writing, or using some other medium.
2 ► means of sending or receiving information, such as telephone lines or computers.
3 ► means of traveling or of transporting goods, such as roads or railways.
Could I perhaps get more of an idea of what you mean? Please!

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pilgrim-seeker_tom

Thank you. I myself do have an intuitive sense.

I loved Star Trek - mind melds sound awesome.

1 ► the imparting or exchanging of information by speaking, writing, or using some other medium.

We are talking about using some other medium.

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Most ‘prayer’ is egocentric … communication with oneself.

pilgrim-seeker_tom

I don’t know. I know that were not asking me a question but I don’t know about most prayer. I spend a lot of time away from people because of anxiety issues that I experience being around others. You are probably right though - it seems that most things that people do these days are egocentric.

I hope everything is OK with you - you don’t seem to be your energetic self.

Aaron … seems your comments have triggered the opening of a new horizon of thought … let me attempt to explain.

After my last post my memory went looking for an example of non egocentric prayer.

The second half of the life of Francis of Assisi came to mind … Francis persistently refused to join the Church militant … the institution of the Church … I understand 800 years later the Franciscans maintain this separation. Francis also encouraged his followers to preach the Gospel everywhere … even … using words … if necessary.

thoughtsofamisfit.weebly.com/tru … hists.html

His most ardent follower … St Clare of Assisi … is another example. She joined his movement(for lack of a better word) as a teenager and battled with the Church militant … the institution of the Church … until a few days before she died. Why did she fight so tenaciously?

The right to be poor!!

Imagine fighting the aristocracy of the Church for the right to be poor. A few days after receiving such a right … she died … Hmmm!

Ste Teresaa of Avila and St John of the Cross took up her struggle in the 16th century … a time of serious upheaval in the church … centered in Europe. Their successful reforms gave birth to a new sect of the Carmelites … Discalced Carmelites.

Discalced means … going barefoot … a symbol of poverty. Hmmm!

This may explain why a healthy dose of poverty … destitution … is maintained in the world … and kept high profile … in order to constantly remind the public that poverty is the scourge of humanity.

Why?

Imagine the public getting the feeling that poverty is a source of blessing(s) … joy … happiness … peace.

What impact would such an outcome have on the prevailing paradigm … prosperity is the only source of joy … happiness and so on. A paradigm where ‘privilege’ is enshrined in law.

This may also explain some current geopolitics … the perceived threat of Russia and China. Both nations were literally on their knees … rampant poverty and destitution … a generation ago … and today???