Reality - Version 0.1

James

I already believe:

That would be the meaning of: My ultimate goal is a clear truth in life - that could take some time to achieve.

The list of four in my previous post is far from complete - however I do not think it is a list that can be completed.

To obtain a clear truth in life, is not necessarily, to obtain the complete truth. Truth is endless.

WendyDarling

It makes sense what you are saying because a situation is a set of circumstances in which one finds oneself . . .

. . . and includes the location and surroundings of a place.

You appear to be speaking of a snapshot of reality - like a photo - but I believe you are thinking on a deeper level than a simple photograph. The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is - there is a special place for constants - as you say the unchanging situation that exists, exists among other unchanging situations - to which I would reply the appearance of change is like a video - it occurs at x frames per second - and is found in the multiple of situations - one after the other - but a past situation - one singular situation cannot be changed and has fallen into the register of totality to become a mere fantasy - a memory - not to be retrieved nor changed, except through the residue of a perception - a perceived history.

Truth however exists in the here and now - and each frame containing truth also falls into the register of totality.

We are the infinite communicating with the infinite and the medium that we use to communicate is temporary.

As soon as I hit the submit button my written words do not suffice because they have become my past by the time you perceive them . . .
. . . that is: they have fallen into the register of my totality.

:-k

If eternity/infinity is constant and the Truth it represents is constant, the here and now would never change by its very nature, hence another constant that appears as you say a video of snapshots. Have you seen the discussion JSS and I are having in the Expulsion thread? The discussion here and there are related.

WendyDarling

Hmm . . . allow me to contemplate what you are saying here - I would be indebted to you for that. I have not seen the discussion in the Expulsion thread - would you be so kind as to provide a link for me? I would greatly appreciate it.

:smiley:

Maybe I shouldn’t :confused: I just reread it and it’s a bit…a lot…depressing. Sorry for being a downer 8-[ viewtopic.php?f=3&t=193156&start=25#p2674821

James

I have had even more time to think about this even further . . .

I assert that, from how I understand what you have written, is that “best rules” are indeed variable.

WendyDarling

Don’t let it bother you . . .

. . . I can deal with downers. What is one persons trash is another persons treasure as they say - just a metaphor.

We are mature adults around here.

8-[

This thread touches on some commonalities as well. viewtopic.php?f=25&t=171723#p2674810
I’m still awaiting James’ answers, impatiently awaiting #-o :evilfun: :laughing: .

WendyDarling

Thanks for this!

Yeah, James is a busy guy. I will take a look at this also.

Again thanks.

:smiley:

Arcturus Descending

I have thought about your post. I am going to tackle your post in multiple parts - there seems to be a little to consider here.

Yes, there can be a clear truth in life. Since it is a yes or no question I will leave it here with only one exception . . .

. . . I will add that there is a reason why I chose to answer this question first.

:-k

When you refer to physical memory, are you referring to the deterioration of our biological body, predominantly the central nervous system?

I know James will correct me if I am wrong but I believe the answer to this is yes, the deterioration of our biological body including the central nervous system.

The concept of who you are now - I am thinking with each instant stays the same.

I am also under the impression that what James refers to as a spirit, you and I are calling a soul - to me they are just words - what they represent is important to me - however I think it is important to treat the words as they are appropriate to each philosophy.

Since you gave me a yes, then I will add that the soul, the seat of consciousness, is a separate body which works in tandem with the biological body. Also, the eyes of the soul(your 3rd eye :evilfun: ) records memories, just as the eyes connected to the brain records memories. I’m not convinced that the brain has the ability or the authority to pull up all of our long term memories warehoused in the soul so what is retrieved by the brain when it concerns long term memories are always different than remembered. I’m not sure how the brain and soul interact concerning all the gathered information which makes up you. I’ve astral projected voluntarily, from a wakened state (not lucid dreaming) once and twice involuntarily, it is upon these three different experiences concerning my soul traveling that I make my claims about such metaphysical notions.

…and I’m rambling…sorry. :confused:

WendyDarling

These are all things that interest me - and funnily enough I think we are still able to keep a rational mind through it all . . .

You are certainly not rambling to me. I was exploring something similar in a thread I started called paradox of vu - which was really about the paradox of the sensed - there were a number of different and interesting answers. The way you and I define the soul as the seat of the consciousness has a couple of similarities to James’ spirit in that it is a separate body which works in tandem with the biological body(and again I know I will be corrected if I messed up). I think it is maybe at this point that that we all either diverge or the topic becomes ambiguous. I have never considered my third eye as the eyes of my soul but then I have only just changed over my definition of soul due to the last one being poorly defined. I have always considered my third eye as my minds eye - so that is confusing to me - however I have been a Christian like person most of my life. I still love the Bible but there is so much out there to learn and I consider myself everyone’s student - I have never been able to achieve and astral projection so I can not really comment on that - all I can say is that I have tried many times. I do however spend a lot of time in deep meditation. It seems that I can feel events before they happen sometimes too; I am not even sure what that is about.

Now I am rambling!

:laughing:

A good ramble is a good ramble. I have much to say, but we’re veering off topic again, aren’t we? If you start a new thread to discuss this astral interest, I’ll definitely drop by. :wink:

Yeah a good ramble is great. I am not bothered by veering off topic. Where would you suggest I start an astral thread?

The Sandbox, since we have no idea where this is headed philosophically.

No problem . . .

:laughing:

That sounds fair to me.

I was referring to the entropy of the physical arrangement associated with memory. Wendy is a true dualist, believing that the soul is an entity with memory and decision making capability, never forgetting anything. What I refer to as a soul, is the essential definition of who and what you are, thus not an “entity” as such but a concept (hence in the Conceptual/Divine Realm). And a “spirit” is merely a type of behavior, necessarily physical.

My apologies. I forgot to take into account the original question that I asked that prompted your answer. It can still be applied the the physical body though, cant it? Yes Wendy and I differ a little on the subject of the soul.