Why there is belief in an afterlife

I am not refuting the Old Testament. God clearly was there for the Israelites in a special way. God did lead them out of Egypt and made them His chosen people, but I simply reject certain elements of the Old Testament stories, due to them not being of the nature of God.

God is love. It is one of the most important aspects of who He is.

What other aspects make God who he is?

When I am dead I will have no will but as I will have no need for one by then then it is not really a problem
I cannot will myself out of existence even now when I do have one and so either way it makes no difference

Sorry, but you are going to live forever s57. God kept his word and killed no one to my knowledge. Sure their human flesh bag dies but their conscious soul lives on.

If you knew that you weren’t ever going to die, how would you make the most out of living? Human life defines time which keeps eternal beings sane.

His Holiness (which emanates from His love), His Justice, His omnipotence, and His never-ending glory.

I’m eternal too. And boy am I exhausted.

Sharing your goodness is being just…justice.

Hi Erik,

How are things going for you? :evilfun:

What do YOU mean by God’s Holiness here?
What do YOU see as God’s greatest attribute or aspect?

Actually, God’s highest, greatest power resides in Peace and it is an emotion made up of Love and Joy. His holiness or wholeness is found in his Peace.

(I am such a budinski. :evilfun: )

God’s Holiness is His being set-apart from all that is toxic, vulgar, and evil. This being set-apart is based in His love, His love for what is beautiful and good. When you love what is beautiful and good, you will naturally avoid, or set yourself apart from what is toxic, vulgar, and evil.

God’s Holiness (being set-apart) emanates from His love, His love for what is beautiful and good.

God’s love is His most important aspect.

You can feel free to butt in whenever you choose, Wendy. :mrgreen:

I think that for many Peace would be God’s greatest attribute. You would share that with them.
But I seem to think that it also depends on each individual ~~ what it is that they value most and desire most.
It’s a highly personal thing and i don’t think that we all share the same sense about that.

For me, though, I am an agnostic, it would be God’s creativity and God’s inner beauty which shows in nature and the universe.
For others, it would be omniscience or omnipotence, ad continuum. God is our oyster.

I think that we can say: God’s greatest aspect or attribute TO ME but I don’t think that we can assign OUR intuitions and feelings about our personal relationship with God to others, Wendy.

He created all. How is he set apart? He favors some creations over others as he favors Jesus over Lucifer, but God is not only beautiful and good even though he favors those qualities.

Thanks Arc, but God’s height, the pinnacle of Heaven, it is not my opinion, it’s my experience in astral projecting.

God is good and that which He creates is also good.

The devil was an angel originally, but decided to become evil.

God is set-apart from all toxicity and evil.
Good people will naturally avoid hanging out with toxic people, such as violent criminals (unless they are trying to bring them to Jesus). God is set-apart from toxicity and evil on an even more infinite level.

But this is just what I am saying here Wendy.

It is an experience unique and special to us individually.

Wherever our experience of God takes place or takes us, within our own minds and souls, whether it is in your astral projecting, Wendy, or my looking up at the sky and the stars in utter amazement and wonder, or reading the words of a Keats or Shakespeare, or another experiencing it in the most logical and beautiful (to him/her) equation, it is STILL our very own unique and highest personal attribute of God.

We are all touched in different ways and I do not think that it can be a good thing to infringe what qualia, intuitions and epiphanies we experience through this God onto other people. We can share them, they will or will not be enriching, but why would we want to put a square into a circle?
They both have their own place in existence.

That to me is one of the very things which gives religion and spirituality a bad name.,

Then there should be no Bible or preaching, but I don’t see you telling anyone else even yourself not to share their experiences, your only getting on my case, why is that?

I am not getting on your case, Wendy. I am just sharing with you…having a conversation with you…sharing my feelings and perhaps sharing some of others with you, like the mathematician, the poet.

Did I take away any of the validity of your personal feelings about God and your journey with God? No, I didn’t.
I included that in my post.

How could Lucifer become something that didn’t already exist?

Erik_"

How did the devil decide to become evil, Erik?

Yes you did, by saying that the way I share is inappropriate, that what I do is somehow different, wrong, to what you or Erik or any other number of people do. Am I trying to convert you or anybody as religions do? I will stand behind my knowledge, my understanding. I’m not guessing. I’m not imagining. I’m not wishing. I’m not intuited it.

Did I wrong you by sharing what I know? If so, how?

What is that…belief?