Why there is belief in an afterlife

What I think of this world is irrelevant because reality does not care what I think of it and imagining different and better realities is not going to change that at all
If you do not like the fact that you are not going to live for ever you should simply accept it as that is all you can do. No one who is dead worries about being dead
That tells me that I should not worry about it either so I dont. I am now as free as it is possible to be because I have no fear of death. Why do you feel the need to
create an imaginary afterlife? Why not focus on the life you have? Or are you afraid that if you discovered the afterlife did not really exist that it would some how
make you a different person? You would still be who you are on a fundamental level even if was a shock to you initially. From what you say here I think you are on
balance way more good than bad so that would not change even if your worldview did. Who one is psychologically and who one is philosophically are not the same

s57,
No one is dead as you said, thatā€™s the situation and it means consciousness foreverā€¦no restā€¦no reprieve. There is no imaginary afterlife, just a continuation of this life in a different form. Why does that not compute? Why are you skirting the issue I am bringing up? You will not die as you think. You will not turn to the nothingness of dust, so gear up for more of whatever you are doing to get by for itā€™s going to be done for quite awhile and then another thousand years and another thousand years add infinitude. There is no ā€œoutā€, no exit from this stageplay, it goes on and on, understand?

I see you have provided zero evidence for the afterlife but apparently think I must accept it just because you say so
I dont accept something exists on that basis and as you have nothing else to convince me I have to reject the notion
The only thing that survives after your death is the energy you were made from but you will be dead for all eternity

You have no evidence for what you believe either. That energy that survives is your consciousness, the spark of life, and you will still beā€¦thinking but without your human body.

I do not believe in any thing at all because I have no need for belief. I do however think death is eternal because there is zero evidence to suggest otherwise
And the energy that survives after death is not consciousness but simply physical energy. The notion that consciousness can survive death is just pure wibble

Boy are you gonna be surprised! :laughing: Remember (donā€™t forget again, damn it!), I told you so! :evilfun:

Do you think that I am going to be surprised by something you think is true just because you want it to be
I am too old to be surprised by anything but I am planning on staying dead forever when I leave this world

Good luck with trying to will yourself out of existence! :laughing:

I am not refuting the Old Testament. God clearly was there for the Israelites in a special way. God did lead them out of Egypt and made them His chosen people, but I simply reject certain elements of the Old Testament stories, due to them not being of the nature of God.

God is love. It is one of the most important aspects of who He is.

What other aspects make God who he is?

When I am dead I will have no will but as I will have no need for one by then then it is not really a problem
I cannot will myself out of existence even now when I do have one and so either way it makes no difference

Sorry, but you are going to live forever s57. God kept his word and killed no one to my knowledge. Sure their human flesh bag dies but their conscious soul lives on.

If you knew that you werenā€™t ever going to die, how would you make the most out of living? Human life defines time which keeps eternal beings sane.

His Holiness (which emanates from His love), His Justice, His omnipotence, and His never-ending glory.

Iā€™m eternal too. And boy am I exhausted.

Sharing your goodness is being justā€¦justice.

Hi Erik,

How are things going for you? :evilfun:

What do YOU mean by Godā€™s Holiness here?
What do YOU see as Godā€™s greatest attribute or aspect?

Actually, Godā€™s highest, greatest power resides in Peace and it is an emotion made up of Love and Joy. His holiness or wholeness is found in his Peace.

(I am such a budinski. :evilfun: )

Godā€™s Holiness is His being set-apart from all that is toxic, vulgar, and evil. This being set-apart is based in His love, His love for what is beautiful and good. When you love what is beautiful and good, you will naturally avoid, or set yourself apart from what is toxic, vulgar, and evil.

Godā€™s Holiness (being set-apart) emanates from His love, His love for what is beautiful and good.

Godā€™s love is His most important aspect.

You can feel free to butt in whenever you choose, Wendy. :mrgreen:

I think that for many Peace would be Godā€™s greatest attribute. You would share that with them.
But I seem to think that it also depends on each individual ~~ what it is that they value most and desire most.
Itā€™s a highly personal thing and i donā€™t think that we all share the same sense about that.

For me, though, I am an agnostic, it would be Godā€™s creativity and Godā€™s inner beauty which shows in nature and the universe.
For others, it would be omniscience or omnipotence, ad continuum. God is our oyster.

I think that we can say: Godā€™s greatest aspect or attribute TO ME but I donā€™t think that we can assign OUR intuitions and feelings about our personal relationship with God to others, Wendy.

He created all. How is he set apart? He favors some creations over others as he favors Jesus over Lucifer, but God is not only beautiful and good even though he favors those qualities.