Hitler was a leftist

And governments can be owned by corporations because of apathetic, apolitical profiteers like yourself, who profit from all the states benefits but have no power to add anything to it.

The more people become retards like yourself, no offence, the more government can be owned by smarter and less lazy people.

Its not a matter of good vs evil, there are no such things, there is just taste and power. If you have the power to enforce your tastes, you’re set. If you don’t, you’ll be likely to see the world as evil.

Thats extremely explosive material, way too explosive to expect it to be read by anyone on the left camp.

I would share it with people if I didn’t know they would get suicidal and blame that on me.

Except I have no desires to rule or control people in all facets of their lives, that’s a government’s agenda, I do have no problem profitting off of other people’s stupidity or misfortunes however. A majority of stupid people have always existed and this will never change, you might as well profit off their expense.

Concepts of good and evil mean nothing to me.

I read this the other day at work… and not having time,
I just ignored it till now…

Now in all my years reading various thread, I believe this may be the most
ignorant thread I have ever read…

I was going to come up with a response but I realize that this
thread is so ignorant that I would need a book to sort out all
its lies, misinformation and sheer stupidity… I will briefly point out that
the author Dinesh D’Souza is a radical right wing, (I was going to write thinker
but that would give him far too much credit) ideologue who blames liberalism
for everything that has gone wrong on planet earth over the last 1000 years…

I will point out that Mr. D’Souza has been convicted of a federal crime and
has a less then a moral approach to his personal life… which is typical of those
who act as moral guardians for the rest of us… a very flawed man
who think’s that we should do as he says, not as he does…

then after thinking about it, I realize that it didn’t matter what I wrote because
those faithful who believe in the gospel won’t ever change their mind…
they have faith (and nothing more) that their religion is the only truth…

this is not a political question, but a religious one… being a true believer that
conservatism is the one and only true religion… no evidence of any kind
will cause a true believer to doubt their faith… so it is pointless to offer evidence
that Hitler was a right wing maniac because a true believer won’t believe it anyway…

so this thread really belongs in the religious forum because it is about the faith
of the religious have in their political beliefs… conservatism is about the
godly fighting against the atheist and other unbelievers… it is a religious message,
not a political one… and on that basis, I shall leave it… and I leave it because
it is not about truth or evidence or even being honest… this thread is a lie of epic
proportions and I just don’t have enough time in my life to correct such idiocy and
stupidity that this thread is about…

Kropotkin

The left is no better than the right, both are flawed models politically and socially.

By all means however stay trapped in your binary dualistic form of thinking, it helps nobody in the end scheme of things. It means very little difference either way.

Exactly. The official government merely has the biggest stick, forcing other, anti-government (criminal) organisations to operate secretly.

The reason open criminal structures of government hate or despise criminals that are private citizens is because they aren’t working with them(for them), hate competition, and because they work under or outside the radar that they themselves can’t control.

Now since the invention of socialism governments try to make themselves look benevolent out for everybody’s welfare or well being using prop words like that of community which of course anybody with any kind of common sense knows is all bullshit. What it really is reflects that of a Trojan horse in that you destroy people you wish to control from within by getting them to let their guard down. Other writers in the past have referred to this end as killing people with kindness or in this case killing and enslaving the masses through pretentious authoritarian benevolence. It is a lot easier to enslave, destroy, or contain your opponents under a banner of friendship, security, public welfare, trust, and protection. With this deception we can see modern western civic nationalist (globalist)governments utilize this ploy constantly and the idiot masses fall in line every time because most don’t even have the capacity to question the social propaganda that is being spoon fed to them daily. They’re too stupid to see the trap being layed and encircling around them. Eventually they’ll figure it out but by then it will be too late much the same with the Trojan horse in Troy. Unfortunately if you’re the enlightened and awakened man or woman you’re damned as a small minority having no power to do much of anything even being completely conscious of everything going on.

But:

This reminds me of Max Stirner (Johann Kaspar Schmidt) and his book that was published in 1844: „Der Einzelne und sein Eigentum“ (translated English title: „The Ego and its Own“; although the righter translation is: „The Individual and His Property“).

But I am just asking myself whether one can be „a firm supporter of organized crime“ (Otto West) who does not „identify with any politics or government really“ (Otto West), although „there isn’t much difference between organized crime and the government“ (Autsider).

Right, but the problem is that Non-continental-Europeans almost always think that „socialism“ means "communism“ in the sense of (for example) Sovietism, and that is not true, because examples of other socialisms (the Roman Catholic Montanism, the German [especially Prussian] Socialism, the German National Socialism) are also known and experienced (more or less), and they have never been communistic, on the contrary: they have been anti-communistic - not seldom even more anti-communistic than capitalism has ever been - and by far less anti-capitalistic than communism has ever been.

That is true. Although besides rhetoric and its practical consequences, left and right does not really exist.

Hitler was no leftist and no rightist - Hitler was an Austrian !

Void_X,

Such observations are quite legitimate , another cross-over, similarity between differing cultural values is the evolution of ‘democracy’. The American Revolution gave momentum to the French Revolution, and both could be said to be the brainchild of the Enlightenment.

It is perhaps not too far fetched to say, that the
eventual disappointments with the apolitical aspects
of the Enlightenment, was to usher in the later alleged inherent faults with liberalism. The traces of that are all too appearent with the climate we are living in.

Capitalism without trade monopolizing has never existed in history.

Yes, I’m a fan of Stirner. The difference is between that of a small time gangster versus a larger criminal organization, or decentralization versus centralization.

Communism was the natural evolution of socialism in its utopic form much as pure capitalism’s evolution is usually that of fascism. Socialism evolved into communism historically as capitalism evolves into corporate fascism. The world only gets the option of communism, or corporate fascism, pretty neat huh? Also, both are controlled by the same group of people.

Ever since the beginning of the industrial era it has been a constant competition over the entire planet geopolitically between communism and corporate fascism. I of course despise both systems and wish there was a kind of alternative, unfortunately one has not stepped forward yet.

The United States in all regards revolves around a single uni-party united by greed and lust of power putting forward only the pretense of having different political ideologies. There is only one political party or establishment in the United States and that is Wallstreet.

No human system of government is perfect so the knack is to find the one which is the least imperfect and
then make it work for the greatest number of people. And needless to say it is an eternal work in progress

It never works for the greatest number people but instead only a minority of people, what you’re pushing is a myth.

Any society and government that isn’t set up explicitly and implicitly in terms of securing the highest and most necessary values for the greatest number of people as possible, even if that is always an ideal only, is fundamentally irrational and deserves what it always gets, namely its own destruction.

Well said, especially the bolded part. Depressing and hard to accept, but it is how it is.