Abusing America

K: a drone strike is not an invasion, no matter how you paint it…
is it wrong? yes, very, but that doesn’t change the fact, a drone strike
is not an invasion…

my handy dandy dictionary says this about the word… Invasion: an invading or being
invaded by an army… so you are stretching the idea of a drone strike into being
an invasion which it is not…

I am impressed however how far you all are willing to stretch the meaning of
the idea of a drone strike into a invasion… very alt fact of you…as you cannot
even defend your idea that Obama INVADED any country…I am sure this is the best
you can do… changing the goal post to try to make your point…

and as usual, you are attacking me and insulting me… pretty much par
for the course as you all have nothing else…

as for your insults and attacks… you haven mistaken me for someone who cares what
you think…

Kropotkin

If the Army owns the drones, then they were invaded by the Army.

So nuclear warheads are not an attack either? Okay, just remember that as your ass gets blown to smithereens by the Russians who may invite us to Sunday Tea. It’s good to know Peter that we cannot be invaded by nukes.

K: as I have stated multiple time before, I AM AGAINST DRONE STRIKES… I don’t know how
many times I can say this, with that said, he did not invade… the political structure of
the countries hit did not come under attack, the military in that country was not engaged,
the infrastructure of that country was not attacked… single targets were attacked…
that does not, DOES NOT mean it was an invasion… and once again, I state for the
record, I AM AGAINST DRONE STRIKES…and in case you didn’t notice, Obama is no
longer president… 45 is… and you still haven’t proven your point… what countries did
Obama invade? you are stuck on this point because you don’t have anything else…

Kropotkin

Wendy, you can’t fix stupid.

Multiple bodies and multiple buildings for a single target? How’d that happen Peter?

Is an invasion against a nation, it’s people, and it’s way of life or is it a solely military exercise aiming for specific targets be it spies, leaders, or the government’s strongholds?

When civilian bodies and buildings are decimated, when citizens cannot continue their ways of life due to being dead, an invasion has occurred Peter.

K: now that has a different effect… think about it… what is the point of a single drone strike?
what is the point of a nuke attack? they are different things trying to accomplish different things…

context is everything… in a nuke attack, the point is to destroy the cities and infrastructure
and the political infrastructure whereas in a single drone strike, a single person or a couple of
people are being targeted… totally different agenda and totally different tools are being used
to accomplished the goal… you cannot seriously compare nuclear warfare with a single
drone strike on a single target… think about it… try to compare a nuke attack with
a single drone attack…jeez louise, are you really going to make that comparison?

Kropotkin

No boots, no vehicles, no army…those were your stipulations for an invasion. You moving your goal posts now Peter? Peter’s adding amendments and stipulations to his definitions now.

lol you just pissed off an entire starbucks full of liberals reading this thread

You mean if I beat him in the head with truth and logic, he’s still a lost cause? Pow! Pow! Maybe I should have gotten my degree in Political Science…this is fun! :evilfun: :laughing:

I am leaving as I have to get to work… which
is just as well as I have lost my patience with you all…

as I leave mumbling under my breath, what a bunch of …

Kropotkin

So drone strikes are acceptable but boots on the ground are not?

Liberal logic huh?

How big of bombs can we use, how many kilograms before it’s immoral?

Only Daddy Obotsky can determine that.

Invasions are far more serious than drone strikes. Invasions put our soldiers, our friends, our family at risk.

If you haven’t read all of the exchange between Peter and I regarding what constitutes an invasion, then you need to back the fuck up in this thread. Drone strikes by other nations over American soil are not serious is your logic then?

How is that a liberal issue? This is the problem with propagandized people, always not understanding something - and since they don’t understand it, pretend its something ridiculous by creating a strawman argument, then claiming its “liberal logic”. Not everything is defined by what political stance they take. Its dumb and evidence of your stupidity and ignorance, your polarized view point is a the result of the propaganda I referenced earlier. You’re full of nonsense and full of the way the right has pushed further right into a fascist delirious mindset within the past decade, more rampant than what the left has done even with their push towards socialism in so much as supporting Bernie Sanders.

I wrote this a few years ago. Not that I doubt you’ll read it or even understand it if you do. It’s for the rest, the silent reader more so.

This polarizing dichotomy causes nothing but problems. Once someone buys into this left wing right wing nonsense a bias is created that could very well consume the individual and blind them of all logical rational sense in favor of an ideology that ultimately is likely not even held dear in many ways to their own hearts but simply identify for the most part with a lot of the stances of either wing. What occurs however is a battle line is drawn, an enemy is provided that you can fight against and your patriotism is subtlety replaced with a cancerous ideology that you mistake for patriotism.

These Wacko wingnuts are gullible. They’re foaming at the mouth to believe anything that negatively denounces their opposition. This is simply just more fuel for their bias, which is feeding endorphins to their sacred holy war that is fighting out right in the very confines of their whole minds. Their enemy is practically completely contrived through their vision of some sort of shadowy monster that possesses human beings and rewires their brains, figuratively.

It is still a rampant aspect of people in these United States, clinging to an entire ideology as if it were their own baby… thinking on a black and white basis (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_ (psychology))

Their identities rely upon the enemy. They are the anti left wing, or anti right wing warrior. Without their opposition, they are nothing. They feed off each other, through lies and deceit, ignorance and bias. These concepts can be defeated in some people, as quite a bit of us are a mixture of these two ideologies. Yet there’s always people in favor of either one will end up snowballing their ideological standpoint into debating warfare of some grandiose proportions in which their own bias blinds them into some eternal damnation of logical hell, where intelligence has forsaken them and bias consumes them, forever fighting a war that cannot be won. Half the time the enemy is your own contrivance.

Invasion means invasive force. Peter is having fun reinterpreting words again.

Will you be willing to create a seriousness picture graph for us here that are not in the know? :laughing:

Obama is the liberal political black messiah where Donald Trump plays the role of Pontius Pilate. Thou shall not question or criticize the fallen black liberal messiah.

On the third day our beloved liberal messiah risen in ressurection somewhere in suburban Chicago. Ye, he giveth us bread, QE, international military interventions, and corporate banking stimulus. A new political covenant will be ascertained by his prophets Schumer and Pelosi.