I have healthcare and I live in the US so this thread is wrong.
What is the cost of your healthcare Mr.?
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I guess u.s. only counts the two of us, Peter and Mr., the rest of you can eat cake and die like dogs in u.s. streets.
500 deductible, 35 dollar copays, routine stuff exempt from deductible, 6500 out of pocket max, etc, etc. Shit, I can give birth for 200 bucks, and I don’t need referrals for specialists. It’s about 400 a month, but I don’t pay for it. I do some consulting/auditing kind of stuff for a guy I know and his company pays the premium.
I even have an app on my phone where I can get a video doctor visit for routine stuff and the copay is just 20 bucks and they can send prescriptions to the pharmacy for me to pick up. And I can call a nurse 24 hours a day and ask questions like, “why is my foot numb?”, to have them reply, “you’ve been sitting on the toilet for too long”.
People don’t want to earn shit. They want to be owed it. I must be saving this guy more than he’s paying for the insurance, he thanks me, and I’m glad he put me on that plan. McDonalds burger flipper high as fuck like, “they should have to effectively double the cost of employing me so that I can be taken care of for flipping these burgers part time while high as fuck”.
This same guy called me the other night and said one of his employees fell down on the job, so I went to the ER and beat the ambulance there. I was in there with this dude who’s head was bleeding for like 3 hours. They wiped the blood off, did some blood work, ran a ct scan to check for a concussion, shot his head full of lidocaine, and put 8 staples in it and sent him on his way. I took a bunch of pictures and witnessed the whole thing, and went to fill out the workmans comp forms rhe next day. Then the day after that he got the bill. With the ambulance that he took 2 miles down the road, and the ER visit, the bill was $18500.00. The guy didn’t even see a real doctor. Some nurse practitioner just stapled his head.
Really nice hospital though. They had bottles of water and snacks, and the ER wasn’t crowded at all. I think I may go to a chiropractor there. Need to make an appointment. For 35 bucks its nice to get your back cracked after years of crashing motorcycles and shit. Glad I got that insurance.
MR.,
It was silly for me to ask if you were operating above board, my mistake.
You basically proved my point.
Urwrong, if you want insurance, why not use your amazing powers of debate to convince someone to give it to you? Or do something to earn it? Do you currently produce something that is worth more than it would cost for you to be insured?
What do you mean?
I’m on Obamacare for $1 a month, for now.
Then you aren’t contributing to your society. A guy smart enough to post on a philosophy board, who isn’t disabled or elderly should be ashamed of that.
Are you disabled? Elderly? If not…do you feel ashamed of accepting that charity?
I’ve probably contributed more to this country than most people, and definitely more than you have.
I never chased a six digit salary, but easily could have out of high school. I could be a lawyer, scientist, engineer, architect, just about anything. I chose philosophy instead, which is not a money maker. Just because I don’t chase dollar bills, like you, doesn’t mean we are comparable because we aren’t. Does your bank account define you? Probably. You have fun with that. It’s not my lifestyle.
I could retire on $50,000 and live out the rest of my life comfortably and peacefully.
I got a philosophy degree. So what’s your point?
If you think you can live your life on 50 grand, then that’s the problem. If you fall down the stairs 2.5 times, then you’d become a charity case. Shameful.
Degrees don’t mean anything other than we are foolish enough to be duped by this system that promotes its $50k certificates.
May as well be blank pieces of paper. Just because you have a degree, 1) doesn’t mean you’re good at philosophy, and 2) doesn’t even mean you’re a philosopher. To be a philosopher you have to do philosophy. And that’s where it really begins. Do you even know that philosophy started the “Academy”. That’s where the word comes from. So philosophy actually precedes colleges and universities. Do you know what a “university” is? It has catholic-christian origins, referring to where ancient christian monks could study and practice literacy in peace and without interruptions.
For claiming interest in philosophy, how much do you even know about it, Mr. Reasonable? Where is your participation, as of late? What threads and ideas have you “progressed” during the last 4 weeks, anything? What’s on your mind, beyond the superficial? Which wisdom have you produced, for others here, that they would appreciate you for?
Have you provoked any thoughts as of late, in others and yourself?
When I was young, I did not yet know the name for my interests and identity. It wasn’t until later in my 20s that, historically, I am a “philosopher” because it comes natural to me and has always dominated my focus. Always been interested in questions and answers that are out of reach for the vast majority of others. I enjoy to challenge people, provoke, prod, test, combat. I like to find interesting people with interesting ideas, and to see how confident, how doubtless they are with those ideas.
So basically I wonder, what kind of wisdom do you sit upon? Sure you have a pile of cash stashed away in a bank account. That’s not the type of wealth I’m looking for. Perhaps you’re not looking for that either.
I’m provoking thoughts in you right now. And yeah, there’s a lot of morons with degrees, but most people with them aren’t. I can understand why you have disdain for them if you don’t have one.
What measure should we use to determine who’s good at philosophy? Should it be based on ability to memorize? Or ability to implement?
Jargon whores are a done a dozen. People who employ thier minds to accomplish their goals aren’t.
So you believe that completing a degree makes a person less intelligent? Less informed?
I was reading Nietzsche and Confuscious in high school. Made my way through 26 undergraduate philosophy courses, and worked in the department under various titles for 5 years.
What did I learn? I learned the difference between a truth seeker and a person who wants to win arguments. And I learned that you can’t really do philosophy with people who’s limitations of background preclude them from proper discourse.
There’s a big difference between doing philosophy and learning to construct arguments that validate your bias.
I didn’t imply that.
But there’s a huge difference between people who “use the system” to validate their interests, habits, and desires than those who don’t require or even want the system’s approval. It’s like the difference between being an “approved” doctor, versus a doctor who operates from the back-alleyways. There are the “approved” methods of society, versus the disapproved.
For a superior philosophy, I believe that you need both approaches, the legitimate and the illegitimate. The “safe” way and the unsafe. Academia and sophistry is the first, the “safe” way to approach philosophy. It is not the back-alleyway. It is not the shady business. There is no “good philosophy” without bad/evil philosophy.
I agree.
I think ‘superior’ philosophy occurs when people confront their own biases and understand where and why they come from.