Did The Romans Invent Jesus?

Did the Flavian Roman emporers invent christianity and Jesus?

The theory is that with the collapse of the Roman empire economically, militarily, and by invasions of the northern Germanic tribes Rome was in a dire situation to hold onto power concerning the whole of western Europe where the only way it could hold onto its power was through religious cultural dominance thus Christianity was invented by the Flavian emporers later put into law by that of Constantine. The other reason was to subdue the Roman conquered province of Judea which the Romans were having a problem with the religious Jews failing to accustom themselves with and resisting Roman imperial law. A new religion had to be created to counteract and compete against Judaism but also aligning itself submissively to Roman rule where christianity worked perfectly to that regard. Christianity worked so perfectly in pacifying the province of Judea that it was later decided to be adopted throughout the ancient Roman world itself at much cost of the indigenous pagan beliefs that became destroyed in the process.

Of course this wasn’t the first time a religion was created for purely socio economic and political reasons as in another thread we discuss how the origins of Judaism is that of ancient Egyptian Atenism.

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Now how hilarious is that? Christianity plagiarized Judaism which itself was a plagiarization of an Egyptian pharoah cult. All in all I would say that is pretty funny pondering the whole ridiculousness of it.

Who helped the Flavian emporers fabicrate the creation of christianity? Why none other than Titus Josephus Flavius.

Whom better to fabricate the creation of christianity itself than a descendant of an Atenist themselves, right? A bonified Adonai worshipper! Now why would a Jew help the Romans create christianity? I mean that sounds absurd, ridiculous, and absurd, right? That sounds counterproductive to Judaism, right? Well, consider all the in roads have been made into christian Europe as Jewish merchants. You have a new testament connected to the old testament of ours! We’re brothers and sisters of the same god goyim! We do so well living amongst you!

Christianity has essentially pacified all Europeans (formerly pagans) so much under christian civic humanism that perhaps Titus Josephus Flavius forseen all of that deciding to himself that it could only aid future Jewry in the end. (He of course was unfortunately right.) In the end the creation of christianity under the Romans was just too good of an opportunity to be missed by Jewry itself and so a Jewish blessing was given in its aided creation.

Keep drinking Satans koolaid, faggot.

no more of that (Dan~)

I do not think so but do think they took advantage of an existing myth and applied it to what they wanted to see.

I guess if I stretch the language I could say that Rome did invent one of the Jesus’ that ended up in the bible.

I see at least two that are easily distinguished.

This following link is my Gnostic Christian view on this and the second is from a more archeological source. That being the book by Gary Wilson and the Naked archeologist.

youtube.com/watch?v=oR02cia … =PLCBF574D

youtube.com/watch?v=4-MBDQqeZik

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DL

Why do you fear new knowledge so much?

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DL

I’ll post some more conclusive evidence for the thesis presented here at a later time. I’m working almost 60 hours a week now where I haven’t had the free time to aquire it yet.

That’s easy to explain, because the west revolves around christian slave morality and psychology. Our christian sheep would feel lost without their Jewish shepherd or messiah.

Does this post fall into the category of “what would jesus do”?

This will lead you to authors and scholars that might help you.

youtube.com/watch?v=sJgvws0ZYUE

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DL

Slave mentality is what I say of both Christianity and Islam but many do not see it.

To me it is obvious.

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DL

I like your thinking.

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DL

The Romans certainly invented the Jesus we know today, whether or not a man of that or similar name actually lived. By Romans I don’t mean the Flavian emperors though. Romans in general, who formed the Roman Catholic church.

Constantine certainly had a major impact when he basically forced the Trinity concept down Christianity’s throat.

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DL

Destiny

What is Satans koolaid? How do you define Satans koolaid? If you’re talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then Satans koolaid is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.

:laughing:

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Enderpheus

It’s an interesting theory. I hadn’t read of it before tonight . But, I checked it out plus some of the online arguments against it. Even the Jesus myth theorists have debunked it.

The first problem I encountered is that there is historical evidence that Christianity existed before Josephus allegedly invented it. Tacitus says that Nero was persecuted Christians in Rome in 64 AD. He says that “immense multitudes” of Christians were living in Rome at the time. That’s ten years before Christianity was supposed to have been invented by Josephus. Also, Paul, who was killed by Nero around 67 AD, wrote at least seven of the letters in the New Testament establishing the Christian church before Josephus mentioned the Christians in his histories in 73 AD.

Another argument that makes sense is that the Romans had no need to invent Christianity as alleged since they had already totally crushed the Jews in 70 AD, destroying Jerusalem and the temple before Josephus wrote his account and supposedly invented Christianity.

As far as Christianity plagiarizing Judaism, how can that be the case when initially the followers of Jesus were a Jewish sect? If the New Testament writers were Jews themselves, how is that plagiarism of Judaism?

No, Mary’s womb and her cousin’s husbands seed created Jesus.

Yes, I am already acquainted with the fairy tale.

The first surviving reference to Jesus by a non-Christian, non-Jewish source of any kind appears in the writings of Pliny the Younger, the governor of the Roman province of Bithynia-Pontus in Asia Minor. His correspondence with Emperor Trajan advocating harsh treatment of Christians @ 112AD seems to fly in the face of the theory that the Romans invented Christianity.

Pliny’s Letter to Trajan:

Trajan’s Response to Pliny:

Yes it is an invention… all they did was used preexisting culture ideals/aspects, put a twist/different name on them and then sold it as something new.

Hmmm. ironically all the disciples were Jews and the seeds of Christianity were planted when the Roman empire was at the heights of power, in first century ACE. It was not until several centuries later that Christianity was adopted by Constantine and the Roman Empire collapsed shortly thereafter. I am not so sure that this was the strategy of the Romans used to subdue Judea, if so it definitely backfired.