Hey, I am trying to philosophize here and that requires a lot of words being exchanged. Stop simplifying the issues.
Now for all the words…What’s all that? What change are you being and how does it impact the people around you? Yada, yada, yada?
I try and keep moral discourse more about the form and less about the content. I think that’s helpful and I wish more people would do the same.
Still awaiting your answers Mr.
The mess that you call civilisation is in relative terms in a better state than at any time in history since that is the nature of progress. But such progress
is never complete as it is in a constant state of evolution. That is why a hundred years from now the same question can still be asked. So do not assume
this particular period of history is special merely because you are living in it because that is demonstrably false. I can not give the answers you want me
to. No one can since it is not a problem with that type of solution. The name of the game here is damage limitation not Utopia. Pragmatism not idealism
Lay out your plan or suggestions for damage limitation please.
I have no plan. Changing the world is a bit above my pay grade. I just focus on changing myself as that is all I
can do. You cannot expect an answer to such a profound question any way. It is too complex for that. So you
should be more specific and less general. Narrow it down to something more practical and take it from there
Okay, lay out a more practical plan that you have narrowed down.
Since you started this thread do you not have any ideas of your own
I honestly have no plan and would not know what to do even if I wanted to
Why do you think that civilisation is in such a mess
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Wendy try to break it down into its constituent parts such as
Economic / Social / Political / Cultural / Philosophical / Moral
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As you can see I’ve attempted to answer that question already. If common sense can’t be taught, then the situation is more serious than I can comprehend. In the United States, the facades of the perfect family who portrayed the perfect behavior in public has been decimated by all the modern revealing social media access to 24/7 news, Facebook, YouTube, etc. In other words, everyone is watching now, poor behavior is no longer a private issue.
I have oodles of ideas but I never garner the participation from others when I present them so their worth is untested so to speak.
Here’s one:http://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=190489
What?
Mr. wrote
While form has its uses, this thread is for content. Surreptitious recommended narrowing it down which I’ve done below.
1.The structure of the family is in tatters. What constitutes a core family and what are its values?
2.Repugnant public behaviors and lack of manners run rampant. Without healthy families and their values, how do we turn the tide away from the lack of respect for oneself and others?
3.Common sense seems absent. Can this be taught?
Modern times seem crass.
You religious?
Not in any traditional, organized religious sense. When are you gonna posit some workable ideas Mr.?
The idea that common sense is dead is beyond disturbing. Can any civilization be saved from destroying itself without common sense?
Depends on if it can tap into uncommon senses.
I would not use common sense as the means by which civilisation can be saved. You need something a bit more rigorous than that because as a methodology
it is not very reliable. In fact for something as fundamental as the saving of civilisation it is I would suggest very unreliable indeed. So try and be a bit more
structured in your thinking because that is where the answers lie. Now I do not know what they actually are as I said. But that is where they will come from