Are you a racist?

You’re childless?

And if you had a child, you are willing to sacrifice him/her? An impressive suggestion, albeit unrealistic. I doubt you would be willing to sacrifice your own child for your ideals. However, perhaps you are a true crusader. However the rare occurrences of “social justice”, unfortunately, do not validate or prove what you wish it did.

Caring for your own child over other children is a way nature figured out how to tighten the link within particular genetic lineages thus giving them more chances to survive. This ups the competition between lineages, which is what nature “wants”.

Race is a derivative genetic construct, and as such is subservient to the individual familial genetic lineage. Different lineages cluster into tribal groups, this is still the case even in our modern world (a recent study in the U.K. showed how even today English people still live more or less amongst their own genetic “tribes”). But the problem with racism is that “race” isn’t the coherent construct racists think it is. Many different tribal lineages exist within a given race, and within those tribal lineages are many different individual familial lineages. And of course each familial and tribal lineage criss-crosses with others, just as different racial genetics also mix.

Culture and society do not reduce to race. Race is a derivative, secondary construct that maps only partly upon cultural-societal groups, and is also secondary to the naturally selective imperative at work at the individual-familial level. Race is far too abstract and imprecise to really mean anything at all.

Racists are thus irrationally putting a vague and imprecise, derivative construct over other more significant and real things, namely the culture-society and the individual-family. To be racist means to not understand what culture, society, individual and family all mean.

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For whatever it’s worth, my compliments.

The “dishonest” ones are the ones preaching to others to “not be racist”, while themselves, are with impunity.

Are you suggesting that members of the same family, blood kin, are not of the same race?

Are you suggesting that members of the same family, blood kin, are not of the same species?

How dare you be speciesist! Lol.

Your kid happens to have the same color hair as you… I’m sure that is why you would save your kid, because you really really really care about the hair color being the same? C’mon, man.

You’re committing a logical error. The reason why we prefer our own children to other children is not because our own children are our own race. In fact, the other child could also be our own race, but we would still prefer our own child. Here is a problem for you: you have a child with someone of a different race than you, and now your child is mixed race; you are in a situation where your child and another child are in danger, and the other child happens to be the exact same race as you. What do you do?

You save your own child first, of course.

Racism is a fucking disease of humanity, the cure is having a fucking brain. I wish you well in your treatment course.

Race mixing and miscegenation is a recent, new world phenomenon, that requires excessive ideological crusading to convince people to do.

Historically, the races did not mix, and do not. The costs are too high, and rewards too low. Mixed race children and people are instinctively identified as outsiders of the main world races. Shunned too, in many cases.

You can’t use a rarity, an exception, as the rule.

And yes, to prefer your own child, is to prefer your own race and specie.

You just ignored my entire point. Ok then.

Carry on.

Urwrongx1000

Have you ever heard of line breeding?

:laughing:

“Happens to” as if it’s a matter of luck?

Unfortunately for you, children are of the same race as the parents. Does that bother you deeply?

Do you hate the idea that common mating between humans, is inherently “racist”?

I’ve heard of pure breeding, of horses to jump higher and run faster. Also there is dog breeding, quite common, for shows and competitions. In either case, genes and blood lines are very sensitive. No mixing lines and breeds. No inferior breeds. As a breeder, this is common sense.

Now, I ask you and other anti-racists, does breeding apply to humanity, or not? Are some lines of humans “engineered”? Are you? Do you “choose” your mates, or somebody else, for you? If mixing blood lines is bad in horses and dogs, then would it also be bad in humans?

Simple questions, and as Only_Humean mentioned earlier, be honest. That means, answering my questions directly and succinctly.

You really don’t get it, do you? Your intellectual capacity seems insufficient to carry on this conversation. Sorry about that.

Tell me again how a child “happens to” have the same hair as one of his or her parents. Luck, is it?

How “lucky” does a Japanese couple have to be, to give birth to African, Indian, or European children?

What’s the % like 50-50?

You’re putting the cart before the horse. I’ve already explained how race is secondary and derivative, and individual/family is primary. This is basic genetics. And I’ve already shown how you care for your own children not because they are your own race, rather you care about their “race” because you care about them qua being your child.

You keep insisting on reversing the logic. I don’t know how to get you to stop doing that, so I’ll just ignore any future posts of yours that commit the same logical error.

Why would you even consider this question? Your first instinct is - at least mine would be - always to save your own child even if he/she got away from you and was more, much more distant than the black child was. There is no shame in that.

You might call to some other adult to try to save the other child. You would probably feel guilt and remorse if that other child was killed despite the fact that it probably couldn’t be helped unless you were the Flash.

That isn’t what racism is about. Racism is about thinking that because you are white, you are superior in every way, to an African American or other black person. It’s about hating African Americans or other black people simply because they are.

Racism goes beyond tunnel vision. There is no true vision.

Yes, may be about racism. On the other hand, it might just be some unexplainable fluke that made you go in one direction as opposed to another.

Do you have any children, Wrong?

Tell me, how does one even go about preaching to others to not be racist?

Here is the white man and here is the black man.
The white man turns in the black man for being a rapist ~ for raping a child, color is not important. The child can be green for that matter.
Is the white man a racist?
Am I a racist for detesting this black man or maybe I’m simply detesting the INDIVIDUAL for his act?

Of course, right from the beginning after beginning to read this, you might call me a racist because I used the black man as an example of being a rapist. But don’t forget, we’re talking about racism here.

We all have our biases. I am quite aware of mine. Anyone, for the moment, without being fully conscious of who they are and what their feelings and thoughts are, might begin to succumb to some form of racism in the moment because of some dynamic. I suppose that might be part of the instinct to survive ~ maybe. But generally, the non-racist judges the INDIVIDUAL based on what he or she has done, not based on the color of their skin.

Other things also are not about racism - just about personal preferences.
I like this painting and you like that one. Does that mean that I hate art, that I don’t value it?