I suspect however that just because you have come to conclude that I am using you here as a doormat, it doesn’t make it so.
Whatever that even means.
And I invite the thoughts, the beliefs and the values of others here. As they relate to a discussion of God and religion.
You are just like all the rest of us. You are alive “here and now” and you choose particular behaviors in the course of interacting with others from day to day. Behaviors that you would deem to be the right ones. Behaviors that you sift more or less reasonably through a philosophical sieve.
And you either construe right and wrong behaviors here as it pertains to your fate on the other side of the grave or you do not. Most religious folks do tend to connect the dots here. It’s a fundamental component of their life…of religion itself. One or another historical and cultural rendition of What Would Jesus Do?
That’s just a fact.
And you will either intertwine the points that you raise here into that discussion or you won’t.
Not sure if the above comment is a threat or an invitation. I feel no compunction to intertwine … integrate … my thoughts with another person’s thoughts. I’m quite content to remain a ‘flock of one’.
That’s your prerogative.
The thread, however, was created for those who have a belief in God and religion. A belief such that their religious values are integrated into their moral values are integrated into the lives that they live on this side of the grave.
Again, whatever that means “for all practical purposes”.
In other words, my “story” revolves around the manner in which [here and now] I have come to understand the meaning of dasein, conflicting goods and political economy as this relates to the manner in which [here and now] I have come to understand the meaning of God and religion.
There is no “here and now” … by the time you write the words the universe has moved on … and changed. There is no “there” … whether it be before the grave or after.
Right. When we talk about living our lives among others from day to day “here and now” that is “technically” incorrect. And though we know that we are going to die and that “I” either is or is not sustained afterward, it’s not correct to talk about what might happen to “I” “there and then”.
I’m sorry but what on earth are you talking about?
But the “part” that “I” play here is fractured and fragmented by the manner in which I have come to understand the “self” as an existential contraption evolving over time in a world of contingency, chance and change. At least with respect to these particular relationships.
There is no “I” … ego is our worst enemy.
Cite some examples of this from your own life. You live your life and then [existentially] you come to embody a particular set of values. Re dasein from my point of view. Now, from time to time in the course of interacting with others, those values come into conflict. So, in those particular contexts what specifically do you mean by "there is no “I”; and that “the ego is our worst enemy”?
And how is that related to your belief in God?
Why don’t you focus your observations on a particular context in which “stories” come to clash. Your own “story” for example. Your own actual behaviors – challenged by others.
The above comment summarizes my life for the past 25 years … I am the loser … sticking to my story has rendered me “alone in the desert” … a price I’m willing to pay.
How then does that relate to my own rather precarious situation? I have no way in which to differeniate right from wrong behaviors in my interactions with othes from day to day. Other than as the embodiment of particular shifting political prejudices embedded in the existential contraption that is “I”. “I” am entangled instead in my dilemma above. And as death approaches I have no belief in anything other than oblivion.
That’s the price I seem unable not to pay.
Illustrate your observations by bringing them down to earth. Because, until you do, I am not likely to garner a substantive sense of what you are trying to tell me above.
Have you read the personal experiences I shared in the Fatima OP?
No. Everything here revolves around the time I am able to allot to any particular post. Bring some of them here and integrate them into the thrust of the thread.