Generation, Tradition, and the rise of the Far Right

Michael Jackson, Uccisore isn’t alt-right he is at best alt-light. Milo Yiannopolous, the flamboyant race-mixing faggot the leader of the alt-right? You’re a fucking retard. And Trump isn’t anywhere near being alt-right.

I am alt-right. Alt-right is: Gas the kikes. Race war now, kill all niggers. Hitler did nothing wrong. I’m not a holocaust denier, I’m a holocaust wisher - I wish holocaust happened. THAT IS ALT-RIGHT.

If Milo was alt-right he wouldn’t be a fag sucking nigger dick, would he? And if Trump was alt-right he would have gassed the kikes and exterminated niggers already, or at least started both of these processes, wouldn’t he? But he didn’t, so fuck off.

Trump is just another neocuck. Milo is a liberal, obviously. You can’t be all this and claim to be alt-right, or even a basic conservative:

That’s liberalism. Milo is a liberal.

I’M RIGHT WING AND ANGRY!!!

BUT IT’S THOSE LIBERALS WHO LET THEMSELVES BE RULED BY EMOTIONS RATHER THAN FACTS!!!

God, you alt right snowflakes are so easy to provoke. I didn’t even have to try…

I’m sure the people running ILP are proud that this is now the level of political discussion you’ve engendered by putting a bigoted, nasty, sexually frustrated loser in charge of the politics forum. But I’ve had my fun, so I’m leaving now. Just thought I’d check in and see if things had descended to an even lower level than the last time I popped in here, and they have.

Seriously, I’d just shut this place down if it were up to me. It’s become just another cesspool where underemployed white guys who can’t get laid blame homosexuality, feminism and the Left for their personal failings in life. Admittedly, that’s about 30% of the internet at this point in time, but there’s no good reason to give these people a platform under the banner of philosophy…

Sexual abuse at a young age is a very common factor among homosexuals.
Some would argue that someone like Milo who got abused has coped with it by telling himself that he didn’t really get abused but that he was a willing participant.
This also falls in line with someone who is obsessed about victimhood. Not necessarily in the sense of proclaiming to be a victim, he could also be never a victim. Whatever happens, he was in control and wanted it to happen anyway. And if only other people were to learn and simply enjoy whatever is happening to them, that would be so much better.
No ‘self-victimising’, please.

The cuck phenomenon comes to mind.
Cucks want others to be cucks as well. They have learned to enjoy it and others should too, in particular because this gives them the feedback from fellow cucks, the message that it’s good to be a cuck.

Michael Jackson and his upbringing…makes for a fitting choice for a name.

You’re leaving already? B-but I was just heating up the ovens.

This could have been you, this could have been… US.

I reserve serious treatment for people and ideas that are worth it. I’ve had decent serious discussions in this very thread. You’re only good for this:

The day of the rope is coming, Mikey. Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?

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So I managed to drive you away with only 1 post. I’m getting really good at making leftist liberals and cuck trolls fuck off. This is why we’re winning :wink:

He’s Michael Jackson, his solution to every problem is to just beat it.

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Was watching some rather depressing docs on Pakistan and sometimes, tradition (paired with poverty) can lead to child abuse (boy rape/prostitution) and homosexual behavior as well. I would place most of the blame on poverty, but the strict traditional segregation of the sexes and accompanying mentality is also indirectly responsible for existence of such terrible things. In the case of Pakistan, I don’t think one can argue that it is liberalism that is responsible for such social ills. If anything, tradition has a very big play in it. When you start making strict rules, someone is bound to get the short end of the stick, and often, it’s women and children.

youtube.com/watch?v=NMp2wm0VMUs

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Are you related with the chosen tribe?
Genetically, I mean of course.

Ideologies, traditions, culture, is an expression of a people, an expression of biology, of genetics.
A mentally ill person was usually born with a certain sets of genes which eventually express themselves in mental illness.
Same with all kinds of behaviours and sexualities.

Chosen tribe? Are you talking about the jews? No, I am not associated with jews, genetically or otherwise (but of course, both you and I know that you will not just take my word for it, right?). For you guys, whoever presents a position that is interpreted to potentially weaken your own position is either a kike or is brainwashed by kikes; there is no other option. What’s ironic is that you’re the one who’s obsessed by the status of jews and inadvertently pass it on. Your question is proof of that. If a child drops down to the floor in a supermarket and starts screaming and yelling in order to draw attention to itself, do you spend the rest of your life obsessing about it? Because that’s what you’re doing.

By the way, Al Jazeera is not owned by jews, nor does it pursue jewish agenda (just so you know).

I don’t think it’s that straightforward and simple. Traditions also result from interaction with environments as well as interactions between peoples.

The most reasonable and most likely origin of the term kike is the one proposed by Leo Rosten, according to whom:

The word kike was born on Ellis Island when there were Jewish migrants who were also illiterate (or could not use Latin alphabet letters). When asked to sign the entry-forms with the customary “X”, the Jewish immigrants would refuse, because they associated an X with the cross of Christianity. Instead, they drew a circle as the signature on the entry-forms. The Yiddish word for “circle” is kikel (pronounced ky-kul), and for “little circle”, kikeleh (pronounced ky-kul-uh). Before long the immigration inspectors were calling anyone who signed with an “O” in place of an “X” a kikel or kikeleh or kikee or, finally and succinctly, kike.

You certainly are ‘brainwashed’ by the Jews. Pretty much everybody is because of the dominance of Jewish thinking in the modern West.
Hence why pissing on Christ is art. And this is not about an opposition towards Christianity, it is a ressentiment towards Christianity. It’s not very difficult to connect the dots to the Circle-people’s dominance in the media and academia.

Those Pakistanis raping the boys and girls in the UK will continue raping no matter how much money you throw at them. It’s not money that makes you stop from indulging in your desires. Or why do you think that they do it?

People extrapolate from themselves when trying to empathise with (to understand) others. So what would a good(well)-intentioned liberally minded person think when confronted with a Pakistani rapist?
“I don’t like to rape boys and girls, so why does the Pakistani? I should not be bigoted and think that he is very different from me. (Thanks Jews, for telling me about my bigotry.) He is just like me, just with a different skin colour. He must be very upset about something, very frustrated. It must be because he is being oppressed, living in an oppressive society. Poor Pakistani, if only he wasn’t oppressed he wouldn’t rape. The Western patriarchy made him do it, at least indirectly, muh colonialism.
My friend the poor oppressed Pakistani. I feel kind of a kinship with him, because just like him I fight oppression.”

There are two things to take away from this -
Yes, many Europeans are cow like, not only in their stature but also their disposition.
And you can even lower their natural defenses and make them walk calmly into the slaughterhouse by telling them all sorts of fairytales and shame them from realising what is happening.
Thankjew for your attention.

Okay, do I really need to know this? This is what I was talking about. I feel like if I spend more time with people like you, I’d become an expert in jewish culture and history. You could be quoting torah or translating yiddish. For all I know, you could be jewish yourself, because you know so much more about it. What is happening, I think, is that you’re acting as a proxy carrier for jewish culture. The irony of all of it is that before I came across anti-semites, I thought of jews as just another minority ethnic group, like any other. Yes, they may have been mistreated, but so were many other minority ethic groups. It’s only through anti-semitism that I learned that jews were special and not like the others. Were it not for anti-semites (who, ironically, are often very well versed in jewish culture) I would not even give them a second thought and know only my own. Who cares about jewish culture? So, why not just focus on your own culture and strengths and stop wasting your energy on others? Because what you end up doing is inadvertently passing on jewish culture. This is also what I meant by the subconscious not understanding negatives in that flyer thread that was posted a few months back. Positive propaganda vs. negative propaganda. When you obsess about some negative aspect the mind puts the same importance value on it, so, in essence, jewish culture is just as if not more important to you than your own culture because you choose to spend so much energy on it (yes, even if it’s done in a negative way).

And how are you not brain washed when you’re teaching me about jewish history? I just learned about the history of the world kike, which is part of jewish history. Thanks to you. I could have learned something about my own culture instead…

And I will say, thank you anti-semites for teaching me about jewish history, culture, fashion, language, behavior, music, etc., because were it not for you, I wouldn’t even care if they even existed.

So you think pedophilia is a genetic predisposition? I would actually consider it a possibility, but only from some of my own observations (not because I would automatically want to assume a position contrary to liberals). Not aware of any actual specific pedophilia-predisposition genes, though.

Oversimplifications are lazy. Pedophilia is not a genetic predisposition for many pedophile Americans. That doesn’t mean that it will be the same way for Pakis. I don’t know any Pakis or much about their society, so I can’t comment on whether or not they are genetic pedophiles. All I can say is most American pedophiles are not usually born that way and it is not usually a genetic condition.

As for the Jews, I am afraid if I criticize the Jews, liberal society will hate me, so I will not comment other than simply listing statistics.
(These stats do not add up to 100% because some Hispanics are half-white or white hispanics.)
3% of American population are Jews.
72% are White.
2% are half-black half-white.
13% are black.
17% are hispanic.
1% are native american.
5% are Asian.

But in Hollywood,
60% of Hollywood are Jew.
6% are hispanic.
Only 7 percent of films had a cast whose balance of race and ethnicity reflected the country’s diversity.

Also, I must agree that whites are very similar to cows.

What can I tell you Pandora, when you learn about other cultures, you get a better understanding of your own culture because you get to see it from a more encompassing vantage point. You get something to compare it to. If you want to understand how something works you will eventually have to bring it in relation with something else and let it interact with it.

What does it mean to be an anti-semite, Pandora?
Literally it would mean something like trying to be the exact opposite of a semite. (We gonna now not mention the non-jewish semitic tribes and keep it simple.)
Does it mean to not talk about the Jews, especially if it’s not flattery?
Does it mean to not criticise the Jews?

Thankfully you don’t see race, I mean you don’t see Jews, as you’ve said. Kind of Jew-blind. Hey, I understand, that should make you the least anti-semitic person in society. Unless in those moments when you are supposed to notice, similar as when you are supposed to notice race. It’s complicated, as they say, lol.

It is my hypothesis that Milo is not actually gay.

I would label myself an alt-lib. I am basically a liberal in the sense that I think about things in open, new, and deep ways. I am so liberal that I am anti-liberal. The liberal tradition is to destroy tradition, but I seek to destroy the tradition of destroying all tradition.

My views on Hitler are this. I think Hitler was good for helping animal rights. But, he was also somewhat evil, because murder is somewhat evil, and I am also hate governments with absolute power. That being said, if I pushed a button that would send and asteroid to destroy Earth, would it make me evil, if the planet of Earth deserves to be destroyed, because the planet wants to destroy each other and thus deserve to be destroyed which makes it somewhat ironic.
That being said, what I have a problem with is racism that ignores individuality. Let’s say Hitler was president, and I was bullied at school by people I hate. The Nazi laws would prevent me from beating the shit out of bullies, but let’s say there were some Jews who left me alone. The Nazis would kill the Jews but leave the bullies alone. This I have a problem with. I have a problem with an all-powerful government that ignores individuality. This is why I have a problem with Star Trek. It is warring factions of all powerful governments who don’t recognize much in terms of individuality, in fact, all the people in star-trek have to wear the same uniform, and, if I break someone’s nose, I am sent to the brig and called a barbarian even though my behavior may have been fully justified, given the context. Similarly, if an innocent soul was born into a Jew body and never wanted to be circumcized or a be a Jew, Hitler would have killed them anyway, which is a grave injustice.

Getting to know your enemy that is trying to destroy you = Valuing them more than yourself

Knowing your enemies = being exactly the same as your enemies, becoming them.

Not knowing about Jewish culture = you cannot be manipulated by it (!)

Not knowing/caring about something = not being affected by it.

Liberal/leftist logic…

Why don’t you concentrate on your own culture instead?

But you do put value on it. That’s my point. You value it - you validate it.

You’re putting your own spin on it now. See how your victim mentality is showing through? Propaganda wars is nothing new. Just turn on the tv.

No, but I can see how it would help them. The leverage is low, but it’s there, and it’s enough.

Anyone could have said that, but since she’s a jew and jews are chosen and special, then we must listen to her very carefully, and take everything she says to heart. And then talk some more about the jews and how they are because as long as jews are a topic of discussion, they’re not irrelevant; in fact, they are very, very important to us, so much so, in fact, that we must spend countless of hours, days or years learning about them and their culture.

I am not condoning rapes by Pakistanis, or anyone for that matter, I am pointing to the fact that memetic war is a war for mind space and you have to be careful how you ration it.

And if you concentrated only on your own culture, the same would happen, only the contrast would be even greater, accomplishing the same goal with even more efficiency. It worked for cultures with the help of physical isolations, so would it not do the same with memetic isolation/quarantine? I say it will.

Would it also, at core, mean not to recognize it? And by interaction (in however form) would it not be a some from of recognition? And what if that’s what they want and have always wanted? How does a culture stay alive in the minds of people?

All I am going to say is that you’re helping the survival of jewish culture. You just don’t seem to see it. Just “holocaust” alone is going to carry its culture for the next 500 yrs or so, and who knows, maybe even another 2,000 years or so, based on everything that they’ve never forgot since the time immemorial. And so the cycle will continue, ironically, with the help of people like you, who give them so much attention. What has changed in the history of jewish culture? Nothing. The same dynamic is being played out as we speak.

Here’s another good recent example:
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Reminding and educating us that Passover has JEWISH roots, even if it’s done through satire and humiliation (and at the expense of jews themselves). Jewish culture must survive, not matter how it’s done, and this way it will.

If you obsess over them at the expense of your own caretaking, then yes. Self comes first. Right now, you should be concentrating on your own strengths.

It is actually common for people to lower themselves to their enemies standards. Being provoked and reactionary behavior is one example, and that happens when self value is already low.

I’d say it would be harder for a foreign culture to penetrate another when they are unfamiliar with each other; and it’s easer to manipulate and provoke someone who already has a low self-value and low self-worth, and that is something he, himself, is responsible for.

If you take care of your own, you won’t be wasting energies. And see my point above on low self-worth.

And your methods are self-defeating. I only see bashing and obsession with the other, and nothing that is directly and primarily self-supporting. It’s a reactionary strategy that is played out by those who prefer to see themselves as victims.

What I meant by genetic predisposition is that it may also be related to things like hormone production and low impulse control, factors which may have genetic basis.

Hilariously disingenuous.

Why don’t you concentrate on your own thinking? Why do you care what I am thinking?
You are giving me a lot of influence and mindshare with that attitude.
This all makes you think more like me.

Why don’t you think within the boundaries that I set up for you?
Because if not I will simply say that you need to learn to think for yourself.

Don’t worry I will come up with some shaming psychology gobbledegook to remind you where those boundaries are.

If only you were a Jewess, then you could get around and tell your fellow Jews how they should not be so anti-white, not have such a victim mentality.

Again, you validate my thinking, you value it by interacting with me. By thinking about what I say.
And that’s not good because…. don’t forget….you are an anti-Is_Yde_opN.
You are so full of shit.

Look look, there is a tiger eating the villagers. Let’s not think about the tiger and go about our business as if it wasn’t there. Else we might end up validating the tiger, when all we want to do is disappear with it together in one giant blob of non-discriminative existence. As proteins within its belly.

But it’s not just anyone who said it. And it’s not just anyone who is keeping his academic or institutional position after saying those things. And it’s not just any group comprising 2% of the US population which is behind 90% of those statements.

How about you pretend to be part of somebody else’s culture and help them out with becoming less concentrated on other cultures. Go and help them become more efficient and not blame Europeans for their problems. Tell them to “concentrate on their own culture”, to become blind to the competition, I mean, to become enlightened and not think about them as competition.
Do your best for them.

It’s like you belong as much to Pakistan and among Pakistanis as you belong to anywhere else.

OMG, what if they like what I am thinking and doing? Jesus Christ, how am I going to be a good anti-semite if they like what I am thinking and doing? What if they wanted that all along??!!

WAAAAHHHHH

Only one solution - pretend that Jews don’t exist, no, not even think about it. You know, like that rock on the side of the road. It also pretends and thinks that the Jews don’t exist, it doesn’t recognise them, it doesn’t think about them either way.
If I think like this rock, that will show those Jews, eh, I mean, I don’t care about the Jews, I swear.

How can we become all one blob of existence if we think differently about different people?
Sing with me one more Kumbaya.

Imagine we were hunting tigers and the tigers had gotten mental-aids and didn’t recognise us as their enemy anymore, didn’t think of us at all.
I’m all with you there, Pandora, those mental-aids-tigers would not be a challenge and the hunters would grow fat and lazy. But maybe we shouldn’t worry about those hunters because there will never only be mental-aids-tigers.
Sure those mental-aids-tigers think so but the reality is that not even all tigers have mental-aids. It’s just a phase where those mental-aids-tigers are disappearing.

I think your thinking right now is a little bit too clouded with emotions, because you seem to keep missing my point. But okay, you can go about your way, if you like. I don’t think you’re the first one or the last one, just another consecutive part of the same vicious cycle. But your reactions point to your weakened state, so maybe therein lies your issue. My position on the jews is that jews should have been assimilated long time ago. Think of culture as an organism. Our mitochondria, for example, is considered a powerhouse because it specializes in making energy for the cells, and it does so very well. Mitochondrial DNA shows that it may have been a separate organism that has been incorporated into our genetic structure and now it functions in the service of the whole. This is an example of successful assimilation, on cellular level. If your body keeps fighting with a foreign organism that has become resistant (does not want to be incorporated and will not die) and causes body distress that only tells me that your own body has become weakened to the point where it now cannot maintain itself. Only a strong body can successfully manage itself (with or without foreign organisms), so you’d have to take care of own body. You have to take care of your vulnerabilities and defenses first rather than fighting to protect your vulnerabilities and defenses, is what I’m saying. I don’t think I can explain it any other way. This is the last I am going to say on this because I know this is just going to fly over your head. Just keep doing what you’re doing and once you’re successful in eradicating the jew menace once and for all, stop by and let us know. You’ll be the first in the history of mankind.