Rumination

Why the Hell would I do that?

You want to try to turn a cult into something as big as the fight between ICP and Eminem? It’s intellectual stupidity and I already showed it for what it is. Fuck that.

a “cult”?

And the reason that you might “want to do that” is so as to educate yourself.
Or is it that you already “know it all”? :-"

I’m already educated. I already understand what you’re ‘trying’ to do by giving a bad side to things that are inherently good. I ‘see’ what you’re doing and I don’t care for it. It’s what idiots do to pass the time while others do real work. I don’t have to delve deeply into your idiocy and know every detail of it to see the ‘genius’ you think it is based on others genius ideas. It IS idiocy and I will call it what it is.

Then you should be aware of the well known fact that one must at least give the impression of being actually educated if he expects for people to believe that he is. You seem to have missed that class.

And that is called “paranoia” on your part - the act of presuming a negative concerning who is doing what and for what reason.

We have all merely said that the word “ruminate” refers to the negative aspects and that “contemplate” refers more to the positive. We are NOT the ones casting negativity, but isolating it so that it can be seen more clearly for whatever it is (not conflating it into obscurity where it remains a confusion and temptation). You are the one presuming a negative about the people around you (no doubt a strong source of your issues in life).

Your fear of being the idiot does not constitute idiocy in others.

You might want to “contemplate” on that one (or perhaps “ruminate” in your case).

I have no fear of being the idiot. If you could actually prove me wrong, I would admit to being wrong. Instead, you find so many other things to argue instead of the actuality. So… quit fucking around before I quit being nice about it.

Actually being the idiot is not such a worrisome thing for one of the greatest books ever written by the greatest writers of all time is titled that. So let me start the bandwagon rolling by declaring the Idiot not only a prototype of a hidden form ,the anti hero, but the symbolic inception of existentialism.

I don’t mind saying, conceivably to my credit, that trying to put a positive spin on things is a good thing, overcoming lots of negatives.

Not contemplation, only rumination. From my experience, these are generally psychotherapists and people who visit them. I don’t see what’s the big deal anyway. It’s not like they are saying deep thought is bad.

No, just insinuating. When you understand what being psychotic means, it’s not a bad thing, but if you look at someone labeled as psychotic on paperwork, it sounds like something you don’t want. It’s got ‘psycho’ right in it. Psychotic. Yeah, not something good. It’s taking the word and flipping it over to show the worst aspects and capitalize on that as a negative to knock people down. It’s the same thing they were working on doing with their limited understanding of rumination AND contemplation. All it really takes is to pay attention to the conversation instead of just jumping in to get their back.

At the very least when I, myself, jump into a conversation, I do actually say things pertinent to the original post if not the ongoing conversation. Those that can’t tell the difference… it’s like, it IS still survival of the fittest and those most able to adapt. Don’t you all think it’s time you actually started trying to discern the differences?

Adapting by way of a tedious and long evolutionary changes via intelligent choice making does lead to higher intelligence, which makes such discernment possible.

The faster way is jumping in through an instant recognition of relevance, even before such discernment becomes apparent.

Sure, the animal, by instinct, does that much. But we’re not at this point because the animal won out in terms of just doing things. The animal won out in wanting to know how shit got done, to understand it.

We have gone through it periodically, but have been unable to sustain it. But memory is the culprit, it’s still there except on an archaic level.

We’re still in motion; give it time. It’s only been three years since I woke up, what more do you demand?

Are you fully awake now? Are you sure? :-k

let me tell you something. I’m getting a lot of pussy in the mind and spirit, but not the body. I assure you that I am very awake.

The above alone tells me that you are not fully awake - that you are indeed half asleep but then again, to my way of thinking, no one is always fully awake except at certain times, during moments of meditation, contemplation, reflection.

Perhaps those who walk through life believing that they are fully awake or awake are those who are indeed half asleep. But again that is just my thinking.

Not yours alone, Arc, a Zen Master concurs with You, not in those exact words, but close: substitute ’ Enlightened’ for ‘Awake’.

Yes anyone who thinks rumination is negative has a problem with language and as such will have a poor time understanding reality.

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The negative connotations become apparent in the psychological fields where rumination is…

That is technical jargon.

There are two senses of the word; Consider the whole. We are not in the field of psychology here.

Ruminating, dwelling, brooding are quite similar to me, always have been, but I see that it is also defined without any negative connotations. It’s meaning will have to be clarified from here on out.