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Or it could have been my love for my children wanting to get back to them and in one piece.
It could have been my Irish/Italian heritage. …fighting back, being combative when it was called for. Why would I allow that wimpy predator to take what wasn’t his if I had it in my power and will NOT TO?
It could have been plain instinct, the will to survive, human evolution.

All the above.

I’m agnostic, gib. I have already shed the skin above which you suggested. I won’t discount a god who may or may not exist but the god which you suggested? Why me being given that strength and not others, those who are more vulnerable and more innocent and unable to fight. What part does a god play in that?
I did of course use whatever was a part of who I am to fight him back. Irish temper helps too. lol

You can call that god if you like, gib. :mrgreen:

Okay, okay, Arc, just suggesting.

You didn’t bother me at all, gib. You don’t have to stand down. :evilfun:

It’s about bodily strength/size, sex matters because it is a large factor. What’s so unclear here? A single random male citizen did more in that situation than 3 trained female cops.

And they find retarded women who are attracted to them. Most women (and men) are average or below average mentally. Not that hard to find somebody on their level.

It’s easy to make that claim, but as women in this video now know very well, a bit harder to prove it.
Strong and empowered and able to do whatever men can do… until the time comes to prove it in reality. Then 3 police women can’t take out a single average dude.

Speed is only useful insofar as you can back it up with some power. Don’t know what you mean by smarts in this context.
According to you then weight and gender divisions in fighting sports are irrelevant and should be done away with?
If they were removed say in UFC, who do you think would end up winning? A 50kg woman or a 100kg man? Do you think it would be much different outside the ring?

So the training amounts to using pepper spray? A retarded 5 year old can do that. Might as well remove all physical standards and training in police, just give any willing adult who knows the law tazers and pepper sprays and they’re good to go as police officers.

All power is physical. The people who are ruling the world rely on physical enforcers (military/police). You are mistaking physical and bodily power. A bullet cracking a skull is very much physical, but it’s not bodily. All power has to manifest in the physical realm.

What about other women who were raped? Did they not deserve to be given the same strength?

Why would God make it so that anybody would want to rape somebody else in the first place?

So what you are saying Arc, is you were not raped, that you managed to free yourself before any sexual abuse?

It is scary that this man was not caught.

God gave man free will and it is up to man to choose right from wrong, I think it is misguided to blame God, I don’t mean to sound unsympathetic as I understand very well what you went through.

Jesus, sorry I even brought it up. I was just trying to offer a different perspective.

I think I’m officially done with this thread. You can have it.

Oh, I’m sorry too. I forgot that on ILP people are supposed to be able to express any opinion no matter how retarded it is and all others are expected to respect it purely on the basis of not hurting the retard, because hurting emotional retards is mean.

Emotional retards should be permitted to spread their bullshit endlessly and without shame, but if you dare point out the simplest flaws in their reasoning YOU’RE the one who’s in the wrong and should feel ashamed.

Got it. Certainly reminds me of discussions I had with religious people here a relatively long time ago.

You believe in God, so you got that truth wrong. You also believe in free will, which is wrong. This means you also got logic wrong, since the two are incompatible. Should I go on?

This is where you and I disagree. You accuse me of not being realistic but I see you as being stuck in some cinematic idealized image of masculine power. You refuse to climb outside of your WWA ring and see that force, in its principle and application, is not always brute physical force. People can call plague a “force of nature” and nobody will object that the application of the word force does not include brute physical power, but when it comes to certain humans, force HAS to be physical, for some reason. Everything else, even if it achieves the same goal, is either pushed aside, ignored, or re-labeled, all for the sake of preserving the status of brute physical force. Right? Look around in nature. Does nature give preference to physical force? I don’t think so. Go ahead and define force or power in nature. In the living world, it will be tied to survival and survival is not dependent solely on brute physical force. It can take a single strain of bacteria or virus to wipe out whole populations of strongest (physically) of animals. How do you approach and define force then?
Also, you’re displaying double standards when you address women without even seeing your own biased thinking. When a man fights a stronger opponent and loses, people automatically consider him a brave man who has fought and died an “honorable” death (honor!! please show me honor in nature!), but when a woman fights a stronger opponent she is just “playing tough” or is plain naïve/stupid. What is the difference between the two actions that ended with the same consequence? Both have fought a much stronger opponent and both have died as a result. The difference that I see is in biased perception.

Austsider wrote:

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“I refuse to prove that I exist,” says God, “for proof denies faith, and without faith, I am nothing”.

Formal logic was invented in Classical Greece and for Aristotle it was a tool for finding truth, but it didn’t keep him from making the most profound errors of thought.

HA!

Pandora, you misunderstand my position. Is a virus not physical? I explain here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=191750

No, not necessaily. Whether it is bravery or stupidity depends on circumstance.

Shitmaiden

And that is supposed to be an argument AGAINST me? Gee, I guess you win then.


Outsider
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So I am now Shitmaiden…losers always resort to insult.

You present no argument only prejudice.

A Shieldmaiden

It may just be the way we “see” things but for me the sexual abuse began the moment he grabbed me from behind and told me he had a gun to my back.
Yes, I managed to fight back to the extent that he at some point gave up and ran. I didn’t give him the opportunity to rape me though he did try. I fought back hard. I’m glad that he didn’t get to see the results of how he left me - sitting there on the ground shaking and crying and yet at the same time, as angry as hell. The police and I both felt that I might have been his first attempt at rape.

I cannot really say if he was not at some point caught - somewhere down the line with someone else.

Did I blame God? Yes, at that time, on an emotional level and I suppose even on an intellectual one, but perhaps not as much in the latter regard, I did blame god. I had a really strong relationship with God at that time even though in a way it was more the creative majestic God and less the personal loving one. Some people will blame God and some people won’t. Some people might not even stop to consider it. It took me quite a long time to not feel so vulnerable and to feel more secure in myself. I did a whole lot of “looking back” while walking down the street.

I don’t know if i would use the word “misguided”. Human might work though.

Have you ever been attacked, Shieldmaiden? You don’t have to answer that. My point is that unless and until you have walked a mile in another’s shoes, you cannot know what causes a person to think this or that or to believe this or that.

My views about a God have changed quite a bit since then and especially since coming to ILP. It’s turned me into an agnostic which I can only say is a good thing. lol

Arc wrote:

Yes, I have been attacked, hence my interest in the circumstances of your attack.

I got robbed once by 5 guys with knives in Amsterdam, once by 4 guys in Bessemer, which is one of the most violent cities in the country, and I’ve been held at gunpoint, or had a gun shoves directly into some or another part of my body, face, back, stomach, throat more times than I can remember. Its just life man. You win some, you lose some.

I had a crazy dude stick a pistol to my forehead in a crack house when I was 14 because I kept playing chop sticks on a keyboard and it was driving him crazy apparently. Around that same age, the cops had this brown van and they would ride through our neighborhoods and jump out with assault rifles and make everyone get on the ground. They’d search us, and take people to jail who had warrants or anything illegal on them, then they’d tell us not to let them see us in this neighborhood anymore. But we lived there.

I had a rookie cop threaten to beat me with a billy club once in a holding cell because I was raising hell that they wouldn’t let me have any toilet paper. Then since I was pre trial, and therefore innocent until proven guilty, which never happened, I told them I would raise all the hell possible under the law upon my release, snd when he and his friends came around to beat me up, a superior officer stopped them and made them give me toilet paper. Had to fire a public defender on that case and threaten to detail the situation to the bar association before they finally dismissed the bullshit charge.

I got stabbed in the leg once by a guy who then ran off so fast that I couldn’t catch him with my leg all bloody and stabbed. I’ve been shot at more times than I can remember. Sprayed with mace one time by a crazy person, got hit in the head once with a tire iron and split my eyebrow. Got hit in the head once with a night stick by a crazy bitch who didn’t even know who I was.

Been raped or sexually assaulted Mr. R?