What to do with ‘criminals’, when there are so many...

A criminal has an element of nobility, he will kill quickly and put the animal out of his misery…but the common man is the cruelest force of all, he has designed a cage specific to each animal and torments each soul without end and without pity or respite.

You treat with both nature and nurture.

Nature: For sex offenders, nature can be fixed with castration, either physical or chemical. There are also drugs out there, certain anti-depressants, that work as a sexual-killer for both sexes. Introduce those medications as “anti-Viagra” and unless they are prone to manic episodes give them that. Another solution down the road would be gene therapy. Target the genes that influence the behaviors, feelings and thoughts, and turn them off. Another thing they could do is force rapists to take birth control or surgery to prevent them from reproducing. They don’t reproduce, and you’re less likely to have another generation of sex offenders. Of course, if the sex offender is in a loving relationship and has repented his old ways, I believe that person ought to reproduce. Most if not all of these cases would only apply to the individuals that are the most serious of cases. The kid that shows his junk on a phone wouldn’t be prosecuted this way. As far as non-sexual offenders go, many of these treatments still apply. Many medications don’t get used for what they could be used for. For example, I have bipolar one but when I take invega, it calms my anger problems. I believe that many psychiatric drugs could be off-label for other things. As they say, “there’s a drug for everything nowadays.”

Nurture: Have clinical psychologists and therapists for all cases of severe criminal behavior - not just the ones that are mentally ill. My idea of a jail would be like a place that girl is sent to in “Girl, Interrupted”. I believe that criminal issues should be focused not on punishment (as nature does), but rehabilitation and I strongly think that when it comes to nurture, criminal issues are deep psychological issues. People that are repeat offenders have deep psychological problems that need to be resolved. I would close the for-profit jails and prisons and re-open the decaying mental hospitals and re-brand them as, “psychological criminal units” which people would see therapists, psychologists, and psychiatrists to treat the nurture of their problems. This wouldn’t be like Norway’s prisons - there wouldn’t be computers or wifi. But it wouldn’t be like the jails and prisons we have today either. It would strongly focus on rehabilitation rather than punishment. There would be support group meetings and wings of the units that would focus on one issue (such as violence, financial gain, or sexual abuse) and people would be focused on getting help rather than getting hurt again. There would be support group meetings focused on resolving the issue at hand. Sentences would not be issued by judges or a jury. Instead the time someone is in one of these units would end when the therapist/psychologist, nurse, councilor, social worker, and psychiatrist all feel like it is okay to be released to the real world.

Also, once someone is rehabilitated, there would be no public records of their wrong-doing (similar to cases of mental illness). There would be a private record which judges would be able to access, however. Also, these places would not be for-profit, they would be run by the state.

Sometimes I get the sense that I would make a decent politician… Or at least someone that crafts bills into laws.

I’m all for it, long as we get to have sexual relations with the nurses while we’re in.

What part about being allowed to have sexual relations did you not understand?

Another mindnumbingly retarded post from Wendy, have to add it to my box of idiocy.

the animal plays with its kill and so any ‘criminal’ could also be just as liable to play with theirs instead of ending their misery quickly. Variety being the spice of it, so to speak.

Based on my research, men aren’t anymore likely to physically abuse women than women men.
While men seem to be more physically violent, the vast majority of that is directed at other men and institutions, not women.
As for verbal violence, I’m not sure, perhaps women are more, psychologically violent, if you will, more manipulative or passive-aggressive.
They lack physicality, so they’ve probably compensated by overdeveloping other areas.
While men are more overtly violent, they’re also more likely to protect women or other men from danger, whether this danger is the result of the environment, or other dangerous men and women.
Men are our doctors, our emts, our firemen, and our policemen, putting themselves in peril to save others.
The vast majority of men are protectors, not perpetrators, let’s not forget that, there’s two sides to every coin.
Lastly, some crime is good, it’s men who revolt against unjust governments, not women.

Gloominary wrote

What research? Men only seem to be more physically violent or men are more physically violent?

When it comes to domestic violence, men aren’t more likely to be the abusers or instigators, statistically.

What about the stats on the streets? The domestic violence travels outside.

By domestic violence i mean spousal abuse and also child abuse btw, not just when it occurs in the home, but outside.
In the western world, women are about as likely to instigate violence, however studies seem to indicate they’re more likely to report it when it’s been inflicted upon them, because society minimizes female on male violence, and when couples fight, regardless of who instigates, women are more likely to be damaged by it, because they’re physically weaker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_against_men#Gender_symmetry

IPV = Intimate Partner Violence

That about sums it up right there in red, if anything, women are more likely to commit IPV, but when it’s reciprocal, they’re also more likely to be injured by it.
Consequently female on male violence is downplayed, and we begin to think female on male violence is nearly nonexistent, when it’s not, it’s just not given much consideration.

Surveys where people choose to be honest or not do not impress me. Police reported situations tend to represent a higher percentage of males who are abusive or where both partners engage in abuse however, the injuries are not comparable in most cases.

http://www.refuge.org.uk/files/Statistics-domestic-violence-and-gender.pdf
This link takes away a person’s survey choice to be honest or not.

I’ll look into successful prosecution cases of repeat offenders since perpetrators repeat their behaviors.

Gloominary wrote

I agree that it is downplayed due to the nature of the injuries. If more women take up arms to equal the nature of the injuries and such actions are not discouraged by society, then men will grow to fear women as the culpability for violence wanes throughout the world. As a man, do you fear for your safety being taken away by a woman passing you on the street?

Already men do not take responsibility for their behaviors, when women join the men in endeavors to perpetrate violence in reciprocal measures, that will be the war like no other.

Where violence is reciprocal, I don’t think anyone disputes women, tend, to suffer the brunt of the damage.
Perhaps courts are more reliable than surveys, in the sense that more objective evidence is sought, rather than basing their findings solely on claims.

However, I think it’s obvious that violence against men is taken less seriously (and perhaps for good reason to some extent, because women tend to be physically, and even psychologically more vulnerable, but let’s be honest, that doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t occurring as much or more frequently) than violence against women, and this dissuades men from reporting on it, after all, if a man and women are fighting, even if the woman is clearly the instigator, both male and female onlookers will often come to her aid, even going so far as to attack the man merely for defending himself.
From a young age, boys are often taught never to hit women under any circumstances, and to be tough, not to be a victim.

In all likelihood, the reason why there’s a discrepancy between convictions and surveys is because men won’t go out of their way to on report violence perpetrated against them by a spouse, due to social pressures discouraging them from doing so (‘A woman? Bro what’s a matter for you? Man up!’), but when asked, when given the opportunity and not dissuaded, men will speak about violence inflicted upon them, violence that would’ve otherwise gone unreported, where as females are just as likely to report male on female violence to police officers, as they are to surveyors.

Or, you could claim that men are being more dishonest on surveys than women.
It’s not as if men and women are reporting violence equally to police, but evidence is supports females being victims over males, no the vast majority of reports are from females.
Just because men aren’t reporting it doesn’t mean it probably isn’t happenings, and when you look at the social roles men and women have been assigned by society and are expected to carry out, as well as the physical and even psychological disparities, we should expect men reporting on it far less.

Men do take responsibility for their behaviors, willingly or otherwise, men face stiffer sentences for committing the same acts of violence women commit against men, sometimes even if the damage is equal.
Where as society, the media, everything, often makes light of female @ male violence.
When a male and female are fighting, it’s often assumed by onlookers and even law enforcement the male is the culprit, which is sexual discrimination.

Women have taken up arms against men, but as is typical of their nature, they don’t have to do this directly, they do it indirectly, by playing the politics of victimhood, by organizing themselves, by marching, protesting, demonstrating, writing and appropriating political power, using it for their interests and to their advantage, often at the expense of men’s.
Meanwhile, men do nothing, there is no male equivalent of feminism, at least none that is known by society at large let alone taken seriously, and there are few if any institutions that exist exclusively to protect men against domestic violence, or for that matter, from a lot of issues which afflict men and women alike, but for which women are given special care for.

Perhaps women need extra special care, not because men are eviler, but because women are the weaker sex, but let’s be honest about it… but feminists don’t want to be, because if it’s solely due to women’s weaknesses, and not men’s sociopathy, that would mean women are less capable than men, and if they’re less capable than men, perhaps they should have fewer rights too, but we musn’t even entertain that, heaven forbid.
I say if you want equal rights, you ought to have equal responsibilities, you can’t have it both ways.
In the case of domestic violence at least, I’d say it’s a matter of women being weaker, physically, and even psychologically, not men being more antisocial.

You deny my evidence and I deny yours. We could go back and forth, you with opinions and me with documented evidence, but I have no time for silly denials. If women are becoming more violent, it’s about damn time since men only seem to understand brute force in their lack of accountability. Men need to fear women to understand this dichotomy I guess.

Ouch, Wendy. :frowning:

Oh gibbifindiffin,

Men have no idea of what a real ouch feels like concerning women, but women haven’t had much freedom for very long and they are wasting there breath with more civilized approaches regarding their grievances which men do not deserve. Women are tired of being punching bags, but they haven’t formed any significant plans to eliminate unwarranted male aggression like the men exhibit around here. Martial arts training and weapons training needs to be taught to every girl starting at 4 years of age. Forget being Barbie, Kens a violent asshole.

Just do me a favor and let me know when the war begins. I’ll be hiding in my bunker.

Hiding from your daughter like many daughters do from their fathers?

Depends on if she joins your ranks or not. If she wants to kill me because I’m a man, then yes I’ll hide from her.