The Phenomenon of Man ... Wo-man

No but will certainly look into it, thanks.

tom wrote

I am now and boy am I depressed. Who/What are the nested 7?

The way I interpreted it is that there are only 36-72 believers, God fearing/believing=righteous in God’s eyes, people alive in each generation and their relationship with God keeps this material world in existence. Does the End of Days harken that the number has fallen shy of 36 and God is actively casting judgement on the material Earth as he did on Sodom and Gommorah?

I don’t know … and Google wouldn’t tell me. :laughing:

The number “7” seems kinda special in both the secular world and the spiritual world … why? … I have no idea!

At the casino crap table isn’t rolling a “7” significant? Why did the West choose “7” for the number of days in a week … the Mayans didn’t. :slight_smile:

For some interesting Biblical uses of the number 7 click here … shmoop.com/revelation-apocal … ymbol.html

more emerging memories …

Many years ago a Catholic priest … not a Jesuit :slight_smile: … told me the number “4” represents man and the number “3” represents the Divine.

4=3=7

I just learned that one of the intentions of using the number “7” in Biblical Scriptures means “completion”.

Completion = The Unwind = Omega Point ???

Tom, I think you are over-thinking things. Maybe you should rest.

I’m sure I’ve seen many a movie loosely based on that biblical concept…

What would happen if one of these “Righteous Ones” happened upon another, I wonder. :-k

People are flawed but not hopelessly flawed. They’re allowed to make mistakes. God is there for everyone and anyone.

True belief is a phenomena in and of itself. Most people believe on and off, if ever at all. The Righteous 36-72 must be constant companions of God to never lose Faith. Yes Phyllo, God is accessible to all but most haven’t gone any distance with him based on their taking a leap of Faith. After taking a leap of Faith, one becomes more accessible to God and He communicates more because one pays attention more. One chooses how involved one is to be with God.

tom,

The nested 7 may be the 7 types of souls that come to Earth. Does everyone embody :stuck_out_tongue: one of those types?

Mags,

Supposedly the 36 are too humble to imagine themselves as the 36, but should they realize and run into others who realize…mums the word. :-$

Fortunately, you need not worry about anyone’s faith but your own. You only have control over yourself and your own relationship with God.

K: I haven’t heard of the 36 righteous ones before and being a research type of person, I looked
it up…I can’t go with it as is but it can be rewritten in another way…
what is needed is balance… in this world, finding bad or evil isn’t hard… just open
your eyes and all you see is evil hard at work and turn on the TV and you see large scale
evil hard at work… the story about the 36 righteous people (not necessarily men and
not necessarily Jewish either) is a reminder that evil must be balanced by good and
good must be balanced by evil… think of it as an equation where the two sides
must balance out 1+1 = 2… this is an equation and for the equation to be “true”
it must have balance… you have good = evil and that is an equation…
today in the US, you have an equation… left = right and that equation is
out of balance for society to work correctly you must have balance between the
two… you have freedom and security and you must have balance between the two…
that equation is also unbalanced… and you have the individual and society…
that too is an equation which is unbalanced…I submit that that the balance
that is needed within society has been shorted by the right in their fear driven
attempts at security…the right blames their fear on those who are different…
I wouldn’t be so afraid if “others” were just like me…it “others” would just prayed to
the same god and worshiped the same institutions and money itself… there would be
no need for fear… so thinks the right…the 36 righteous ones are a reminder
that in the face of evil, good still exists… but the good is not just a single
color like white but all kinds of colors and all kinds of shapes and all kinds
of dimensions and in all kinds of beliefs… good and evil is not about what
an object is, but how an object is used…even the idea of good and evil depends
on how good and evil is used…

Kropotkin

Until God calls you to do works, then it’s not so simple.

I don’t know what prompts you to complicate it. It’s always that simple. :confused:

What causes it is the same for everyone, the complacency to avoid filling in the dots between the simple and the complicated.

Complacency, also, is only another catchword covering other reasons.

I have to hear about simple works. I’m up for swapping. :mrgreen:

It’s not complacency for me, it’s an abject fear of too much responsibility.

But what if, one is forced, trapped within a responsibility one can not avoid? (With no exit in sight)

This is why I consider Nihilism spurious, it has not gone beyond it, except in terms of dropping out.

Explain please.

Explain please.