Does Hellenistic culture have superiors? Don’t know about all that democracy for cows blocking the roads n stuff. Aristocracy was an opaquely prejudice society based on hereditary. They had slaves, empires etc, so nah I don’t think so.
I think the religion and philosophy will be around a long time yet though, even where only used as metaphor.
Many subsequent cultures have tried to revive it (neoclassicism), but I don’t see how it can exist and survive in a globalized world.
Not superior, master morality and aristocracy and lack of hygiene and less advanced economic systems.
Not sure what Hellenism is, other than a bunch of greeks eating grapes and femboys being slaves to older men.
Personally, I prefer hot lesbian culture. Not a big fan of America because it dooms all males to hell and damnation. I would say Hellenism is superior than America because at least they tried an honest attempt to do philosophy.
satyr said this…
your thoughts?
No, Hellenism is not superior. Men who ride the waves to fish are preferred to men who ride the waves to rape, pillage, and murder.
Are you another of Satyr’s sturdy mules?
No I was sharing quotes to generate discussion on the subject
The traits of superiority that man maintained, an ability to rationally dissect, to convert energy into creativity through imagination and produce tools to serve a purpose, it is this intelligence that places man above all…
I’m not sure if rape and murder actually existed then the way it does now. So I think they were superior, perhaps not morally so, but what does that mean when it comes to a hostile environment?
Hellenistic cultures are interesting but my latest obsession has been Incan, Mayan, Aztec, and Polynesian ancient civilizations.
Cultural superiority is irrelevant. A non-issue.
Yeah and fat people are “big boned”… 
If western civilization was superior, why is it destroying itself and letting itself be overrun or supplanted?
It seems to me the reoccurring cycle of human history is that when a civilization reaches a zenith of advancement it eventually destroys itself from within. Fermi’s paradox anyone?
Obviously not if it can’t withstand the test of time…
Did any culture truly withstand the test of time for long?
I guess for any group to do that, they must first perceive reality as it is - perceive the causes of why cultures weaken and get destroyed, introduce rules to prevent this happening to them to protect the foundation upon which a society is built, and be willing and capable to enforce these rules.
Who cares what you prefer? Fishing and conquest (rape, pillage, murder) are not mutually exclusive, by the way.
That’s kinda the point, isn’t it? No culture or civilization has.
Perceive and enforce what exactly?
Why do men believe that every environment is hostile? How do we know that what they “created” was their own not stolen from another culture brought back on their boats or mules?
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I care and so may other women. Men who listen and also hear tend to live longer, happier lives.
The broader picture could be that attitude you expressed by typing, “Who care what you prefer?” becoming the antithema of women. Perhaps Amazonian days are upon us since men refuse to cooperate and defer to women in general and have exhibited this tendency since the dawn of Man. Men have dismissed women for a long-assed time and that may be coming to an end where men are now realizing that they are being dismissed in return.
it seems to me that men have always dismissed women’s dismissiveness, which allows them to maintain authority over them…which is apart of dominating them into attentiveness
Thanks for arguing my point for me MP. Women are much stronger than they are enslaved to believe.
Exactly, I agree. The chances of that happening are very slim, but I guess you’d say they are non-existent, right?
I meant perceive the patterns in reality (nature) outside of human social constructs, specifically this cycle:
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The key is to figure out how to maintain good times in the long-term, instead of letting good times create weak men, and then weak men fucking it all up , which is the natural way of how things go. If people blindly follow their instincts and emotions then they end up endlessly repeating this cycle whilst remaining clueless of it. Like a caterpillar :
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The human ape perpetually going in circles, thinking he’s going somewhere, that he is “progressive”, going forward, when he’s merely blindly following his instincts and surrendering to natural processes of growth and decay. Then when shit hits the fan these same imbeciles will wonder “how did it get so bad”, never questioning their initial premises, not realizing how they contributed to it.
Strong men manage to dominate nature and accumulate excess energies (resources) in a society, creating good times. By dominate nature I mean, fight off other societies, and successfully extract energy from the environment. Anyway, when the good times are created because of strong men and strong principles, then and only then can degeneracy set in - liberalism, pacifism, feminism, equality, welfare state - none of these can exist in nature. They are fundamentally parasitic and weak and can only latch on to an already successful host which they then proceed to destroy, they themselves can not become successful. This is why it is so ironic when such degenerate ideologies then claim to be “progressive”.
Basically, this natural cycle has to be recognized, and then rules have to be put forward to prevent the system from ever degenerating into liberalism, pacifism, feminism, and all other forms of degeneracy.
But due to reality-inversion I spoke about in my reality-denial thread, a realistic approach to politics will be shunned by the majority precisely because it is realistic - it exposes the masses to a reality they wish to remain ignorant of. They’d much rather be seduced with nice sounding, fantasy words, even if it ultimately spells their doom - “humane”, “justice”, “equality,” love", “peace”…
So yeah I’d agree with you in your pessimism, though instead of pessimism I’d call the same viewpoint realism. Humans will most likely forever keep going through these cycles, oblivious of what’s going on. It’s all rather pathetic in its predictability when you look at it from an outsider perspective, isn’t it?