K: and once again, we have to define or understand what is Hellenism and
how or why it is superior to who? what? when? where? without some
comparison or contrast, the question as well as the answer means nothing…
Kropotkin
Why can’t it be general? Damn near every time in history has something superior to other times and inferior as well.
Does Hellenistic culture have superiors? Don’t know about all that democracy for cows blocking the roads n stuff. Aristocracy was an opaquely prejudice society based on hereditary. They had slaves, empires etc, so nah I don’t think so.
I think the religion and philosophy will be around a long time yet though, even where only used as metaphor.
Many subsequent cultures have tried to revive it (neoclassicism), but I don’t see how it can exist and survive in a globalized world.
Not superior, master morality and aristocracy and lack of hygiene and less advanced economic systems.
Not sure what Hellenism is, other than a bunch of greeks eating grapes and femboys being slaves to older men.
Personally, I prefer hot lesbian culture. Not a big fan of America because it dooms all males to hell and damnation. I would say Hellenism is superior than America because at least they tried an honest attempt to do philosophy.
satyr said this…
your thoughts?
No, Hellenism is not superior. Men who ride the waves to fish are preferred to men who ride the waves to rape, pillage, and murder.
Are you another of Satyr’s sturdy mules?
No I was sharing quotes to generate discussion on the subject
The traits of superiority that man maintained, an ability to rationally dissect, to convert energy into creativity through imagination and produce tools to serve a purpose, it is this intelligence that places man above all…
I’m not sure if rape and murder actually existed then the way it does now. So I think they were superior, perhaps not morally so, but what does that mean when it comes to a hostile environment?
Hellenistic cultures are interesting but my latest obsession has been Incan, Mayan, Aztec, and Polynesian ancient civilizations.
Cultural superiority is irrelevant. A non-issue.
Yeah and fat people are “big boned”… 
If western civilization was superior, why is it destroying itself and letting itself be overrun or supplanted?
It seems to me the reoccurring cycle of human history is that when a civilization reaches a zenith of advancement it eventually destroys itself from within. Fermi’s paradox anyone?
Obviously not if it can’t withstand the test of time…
Did any culture truly withstand the test of time for long?
I guess for any group to do that, they must first perceive reality as it is - perceive the causes of why cultures weaken and get destroyed, introduce rules to prevent this happening to them to protect the foundation upon which a society is built, and be willing and capable to enforce these rules.
Who cares what you prefer? Fishing and conquest (rape, pillage, murder) are not mutually exclusive, by the way.
That’s kinda the point, isn’t it? No culture or civilization has.
Perceive and enforce what exactly?
Why do men believe that every environment is hostile? How do we know that what they “created” was their own not stolen from another culture brought back on their boats or mules?
Autsider wrote
I care and so may other women. Men who listen and also hear tend to live longer, happier lives.
The broader picture could be that attitude you expressed by typing, “Who care what you prefer?” becoming the antithema of women. Perhaps Amazonian days are upon us since men refuse to cooperate and defer to women in general and have exhibited this tendency since the dawn of Man. Men have dismissed women for a long-assed time and that may be coming to an end where men are now realizing that they are being dismissed in return.
it seems to me that men have always dismissed women’s dismissiveness, which allows them to maintain authority over them…which is apart of dominating them into attentiveness