I may get into this stuff more in about a year from now.
One more question about zombie universes: how can you be sure you’re not already in a zombie universe? I mean, the quintessential point about zombies, at least in philosophy, is that you can’t tell whether you’re dealing with a real, feeling, conscious human being and when you’re dealing with a zombie. And on that point, how can you be sure that when you create a zombie universe, it really is a zombie universe? Do you know how to verify whether you left out consciousness or it inadvertently slipped in there? I mean, many would argue that if you get the biology just right–and you would have to in order for the zombie universe to mimic a universe with real human beings–then you also inevitably get consciousness–you can’t have one without the other–or so they say.
You may be in someone else’s zombie universe for you!
That could really suck!!
Making one for yourself would never suck for you.
In mine, beautiful, fun women would walk up to my door asking me for sex all day!! You need “miracles” that are like passwords to tell whether you’re in your own zombie world or not. I have a very secure “password”
Ultimately, to distinguish, you have to use possessions and memory overlap techniques and yield ZERO result!! Then you know it’s a zombie!!
Try to imagine a world, jerkey, where you are the only one in existence.
How long before that became a “hell” for you albeit we do love our solitude?
I think that God’s plan in the beginning was to only create you. Then John Donne’s future words could be heard through the mist so this God took compassion on you and created others.
Once you figure out that in order to win, someone must lose in this world, and that this makes the world inherently evil, you have graduated towards being mature enough to manifest well.
You have never explained why someone must lose. Every soul is here to experience a different physicality, to withhold or eliminate portions of their experiences does not seem fair to them when they can manifest what they need themselves. Also, what happens when you don’t really want anything here?
There is meaning, it’s called learning which you seem to be stubbornly against and that is why you are unhappy. God has final say, not you and you are just spinning your wheels until you get to know Him.
You seem to be applying meaning by saying that the world is inherently evil.
The world is not inherently evil - it is simply inherently natural.
You can tumble your statement and say just as well that the world is inherently good.
It consists of both good and evil.
What is there beyond the 5 senses, ecmandu? Logic, reason, consciousness…
At some point, we move beyond the 5 senses and what their impressions give to us toward questioning, doubting, experimenting, et cetera.
Countless people have referred to life as a school. Why? Because a school is where you go to “hopefully” learn the things which are necessary to get you through. It’s a figure of speech, not meant to be taken literally.
You needn’t think of life as a school though, ecmandu. But has it not taught you anything?
No, she didn’t. Just because you do not agree with her in the way she thinks, doesn’t make her crazy. She didn’t say anything absurd or off the wall.
That almost sounds accusatory.
The fact that Wendy wants to see life as a school is a good thing. It means she realizes that there are things, many things, which life has to teach her along the way.
We all see with different eyes. I can and do agree with her that life is a school or like a school.
We can say that life is many different things. Just fill in the blanks.
Life is a river, life is a symphony, life is the woodshed where we are taken to be disciplined.
I’m sure you can think of many more.