"Chelsea" Manning's Sentence Commuted by Obama

K: actually that is true… Reality is nuanced and that fact is lost on a lot of people…
reality is not black or white, right or wrong, just or unjust, reality is just shades of gray
and a lot of both black and white, right and wrong, just and unjust…
a lot of people around here act as if reality is right or wrong, whereas reality can
be at the exact same time right and wrong and for the exact same reasons…how
do you understand something that can be so different at the same time otherwise
known as Schroedinger’s cat…is a great description of reality, both dead and alive
at the same time, right and wrong at the same time, just and unjust at the same time…
how do we create a truth about something that can be so diverse? and so full of
possibilities…

Kropotkin

the reality is Manning is both innocent and guilty at the same time…
that is reality of the matter…
how do we decide?

Kropotkin

Please provide evidence that the manning was directly responsible for 1 million deaths.

Then provide evidence that those 1 million deaths had any good people that died.

Then provide evidence that Manning’s actions saved no good people from death.

Then provide evidence that the amount of good that came from Mannings actions was less than the amount of good that suffered from Manning’s actions.

Then provide evidence that torture is a just punishment for murder.

What Manning did doesn’t hurt the DNC, so he gets a pass. That, apparently, is how we decide.

K: have you ever seen a doctor for your OCD…You are quite fixated on this DNC thing…
it isn’t healthy to be so…fixated…

Kropotkin

You should have a look through your own post history sometime, you know, since you clearly aren’t busy replying to people’s points.

U: What Manning did doesn’t hurt the DNC, so he gets a pass. That, apparently, is how we decide.
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K: have you ever seen a doctor for your OCD…You are quite fixated on this DNC thing…
it isn’t healthy to be so…fixated…

M: You should have a look through your own post history sometime, you know, since you clearly aren’t busy replying to people’s points."

K: some people’s post aren’t worth replying to and some people post, I mean to reply to
but I forget to reply because I am rather busy at times and some people, I think are
clearly insane and I don’t answer them… so it depends on what is going on…
I recently work 10 days in a row… sometimes it is hard to reply while working 10 days
in a row…

Kropotkin

Always got time for an insult though.

K: actually if you look at my posts, I rarely ever insult… unless they are deserved…
I rarely ever give it my best though… I hold back quite a bit these days…

people around here are such snowflakes…kinda like their savior, Herr Trumpf…

Kropotkin

They aren’t philosophers man.

K: no, they aren’t philosophers…they just regurgitate the same crap they
heard when they were 12…they hold their beliefs very tight…

It is not enough to have the courage of our convictions,
we must also have the courage for an attack upon our convictions…
Nietzsche…

Kropotkin

Ucc, are you able to conceive a single instance of anything at all that isn’t a matter of right vs left?

As someone who deeply respects Ucci, I have to say that I am deeply disappointed by the transphobia in this thread. I’m a natsec dove but I get the natsec hawk argument against Chelsea. I feel there is a legitimate space for disagreement there.

But shitting on transfolks as a means to delegitimize them is super beneath you Ucci.

I can’t ask you to be perfect. I can’t even ask you to be good. But I can ask you to be better. So, Ucci, please be better.

For me. Not because of logic or reason. But because I am asking you. Are you willing to do that?

Are you deeply saddened by my problematic use of quotation marks?

Transphobia wasn’t even a word the last time you posted on these forums, and already you’re in the “I am shocked, shocked! That anybody would have a different opinion about transgendered issues, or not take it seriously when a man pretends to be a woman, in 2017!” mode.

Sorry, I don’t get the progressive-stack newsletter, I’m bound to be something-else-phobic next week too as you lionize another %0.3 of the population. Where are we on Rachel Dolezal, anyway? Is it bigotry to doubt that people can change race by dressing up in a costume and wishing, or does common sense still apply in that instance?

As a transgender i am deeply offended by the transphobia rampant in these forums…As a matter of fact alls I did is send Arc some hot shemale artwork and they revoked my pm privileges…its insane…Hows a person supposed to get laid in this day and age when they get cockblocked at every turn and every minute?

Xunzian, save me from these bigots.

I was a 14 year old Asian black girl for 15 minutes yesterday…

People offended me by calling me mr.

The cops didn’t understand when they arrested me in the women’s restroom…

That’s how people see this trans-whatever crap now.

Are you talking about on Earth or one of those other world’s you supposedly visited?

It’s just to point out the absurdity of where people are taking it these days.

Its clear you are insane. Long as noone is getting raped in the bathroom, why should you be arrested for pissing in the girls room?

Because they don’t want you there. Changing in the high school girls locker room.

You’re destabilizing because of our discussion about the DNA machine.