Anyone have Zoot Allures Name, Prison Number, Prison?

Here’s what I propose:

1] Zoot makes it back to ILP
2] You and I and him go here – viewtopic.php?f=25&t=189516 – and hash this all out once and for all

In fact, Zoot already made a few contributions to the thread.

Wait, I know: You can invite Uccisore! [-o<

I’m not letting you anywhere, if I didn’t meet with Joker, what makes you think I’m gonna meet with you.

No, I’m not jointing into a home orgy, consumed with sweaty, hairy thrusts and cries of Dasein. I don’t care how much Shield Maiden us visualizing it right now, I’m not participating. You can head over to Satyr’s forum if your into that.

I’ve made no implications of despising this board. I don’t.
My reasons are my own.

The way I see it, you could spend the rest of your life rehashing the moral implications of what he did, giving judgment, taking it back, jerking off to your own sense of justice, whatever rocks your socks, mamacita. That, or you could take 10 minutes to grant someone the most honorable gift of acknowledging him as a person in a place where he is completely dehumanized.

I am no psychologist, but one thing that I am quite certain of, is that if I wish for someone to acknowledge their blame and make a conscious effort to reform himself, the absolutely wrong way to go about it is to give indifference.

Just keep in mind, while sipping on your chamomile tea and pondering on the many degrees of blame and accountability that zoots has rightfully earned,that on the other side of this, there is a person who feels hunger, cold, and despair just like any other, no matter what he did. One that has gone through due process and is paying very heavily for what he did.

Let your actions show us who you are. Or don’t, whatever. I don’t care about you.

You chose to not include this part in your reply and I wonder why, just as you choose to not give a reason why you no longer post here.
You took the responsibility in continuing correspondence with him and now you want to enlist others to lessen that load, perhaps the real truth of this is, you now realise your mistake.

… whatever. I don’t care about you.

I did not include the quote, but I did address it.

The entire point of my previous post is that I do not conduct myself based on what other people did. I do what I do because that is who I am, and therefore, the quote is irrelevant.

Now, pardon me for removing myself from further conversation. I have no interest in humoring the random speculations of an old bat who only sees the worst in people.

Once again, if anyone wants more info or further help, I can offer via PM.

Yo lyssa, if you can read this, I just wanted to tell you that despite your ups and downs, zoots regarded you as a friend, and I’m certain that he would be delighted to get a little note from you.

Here, Turd —> viewtopic.php?f=25&t=189516

Among other things, it’s called “virtual reality”.

Now, you wouldn’t go there before because you insisted that I did not even exist. I was your “foe”.

Of late however you have taken pity on me and I am no longer on ignore. So, if/when Zoot does return let’s go there [meaning here] and thump each other more, oh, I don’t know, philosophically?

I’ll even let you be the cat from time to time.

The man is 43 years of age and a serial offender and that silly woman Phoneutria is running to his mother, no wonder he won’t take responsibility for his crimes.

Virtual as in like, Second Life? I’m not really into internet sex either. You enjoy that Anthony Weiner stuff.

Repartee.

You’re not very good at that, either. =D>

Why are you changing the subject suddenly?

I am going to send Zoot a letter soon. If anyone wishes to include a message to him, post it here, and I will write it down and send it with my letter.

Just tell Zoot that I miss him, and tell him it’s not fair that women are commodifying sex, so he triggers their denial system by making it more free when he escalates approach. That’s just the way this world works, and he’s not helping anyone by trying to stand his ground to this regard. Don’t be the thing you hate. My very sincere grievance that it went as far as prison.

Obviously: We can’t seem to agree on what the subject actually is.

I try to steer the discussion in the general direction of this: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=189516

While you seem to be hopelessly entangled in one or another sexual allusion.

Iam… please post relevant to the topic, and please remember this for all future posts. Thank you in advance.

Fair enough.

But there are in fact other ways to look at it.

Mine for example.

I originally opened this thread because when Zoot was once among us, he and I had our fair share of exchanges. We got along rather well as I recall. For one thing, his posts were quite often in the general vicinity of that which many here construe to be actual philosophy.

And he was clearly no Kid.

Then Turd noted this on the thread:

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To which I rejoined:

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I then pointed out to Turd that…

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And that is when Turd seemed more intent on reconfiguring the exchange into what I construed to be sexual allusions.

Of course these things are always rather subjective. And I would never attempt to argue that my own interpretation here is preferable to yours.

But we clearly do construe it in conflicting ways.

Probably rooted in dasein.

Shieldmaiden, your country was a fucking prison at one point. That is clear evidence that inmates have a future, and it is best to encourage them to good living and social outlooks, like community and friendship. If Australia didn’t, modern Australia wouldn’t exist. Nobody expects you to to cease being a twat, but it be awesome if you tried on occasions like there.

I don’t know, Mags, it’s your call, but… :wink:

Your about to go back into for land Iambigious.

Note to Mags:

Do you know what this means? :wink: