Real numbers counted... And random shit

That’s a mathematical barrel rotation, with something added in…

Now add set theory to barrel rotations and you get the above or something, ~ What method have you used to add the zero’s in? I assume they are injectives, but if you have randomly added them in with no basis, then your lack of rule is indeed going to arrive at infinite or denumerable amounts of zero’s. what I mean is that reality has to have a reason for adding something into its equation/schemata, if it even has such a thing. the universe does have limits though, which is a bit like a kind of one-dimensionality. Like how far can you stretch an elastic band, …and you reach denumerable amounts due to that limitedness. if that’s what you mean?

I am intrigued by adding dimension, but if we are going to add that in then each number will have its own or indeed be its own dimension. If not we would then have to add a further factor/s to determine why some numbers do have dimension and others de not. If we are attempting to describe maths outside of or otherwise beyond that which exists in the physical universe, I would imagine that any rule we add would be universally applicable ~ without further rule to determine otherwise. Point being that we are adding in rules AFTER any primary maths could have occurred, so we need reasons why we should be using and adding them.

Isn’t any primary math without rule?! - genuinely interested btw.

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I’m not sure we understand each other.

I don’t see how an infinite expansion like this can be a barrel rotation.

What I’m merely noting is that if you have a sequence that’s infinite, and you make an infinite sequence for each member of that, you have dimensional flooding.

To resolve dimensional flooding issues, you add new dimensions to the operators.

Moving in 8 directions is an 8 dimension operator sequence … A decimal point is a dimension etc…

Adding 1 is a dimension…

What’s a 1?

1 is a unit of measure.

A 1 can be a 5 if 5 is your unit of measure.

Why do you want to know?

It’s not a thing?
Is one an idea?

Show me a one.
Any one.
One ‘one’.
One indivisible, immutable whole, perfect, complete, absolute, ONE.

What does it measure?

What is a dimension?

What is 0?

Like Aegean asked, can you show me a one?

Constructing a ‘reality’ with concepts you cannot, them, define or prove, is a symptom of desperation, and insanity.
Cleavage in the mind pleasantly detaching it from what threatens and disturbs it.

There is a one in every individual word you just used.
There is a one in the totality of what you wrote.

Perfection is not a matter of one atom, it’s a matter of acuity.

When I ask someone to fill my coffee about 3/4ths full and they do it, I call it perfect, even though my cup has never been filled the same volume twice.

You mean the word ‘one’ is evidence of a singularity?
One is a one, is that your proposition?
You mean, perfection is determined by borders, such as a cup, a room?

1=1…right?
Nice symbolic self-referential “reasoning”.
You “show” a one as being the symbol, the word ‘one’?
Is that it?
#-o

Your entire theory rests on that?

There’s a difference between a singularity and the singularity.

Also… 1 cannot exist without a list of all the other whole numbers…

Singularities come from the infinite, the infinite comes from singularities.

They co-exist …

There is no infinity without the discrete parts and vice versa.

You mean the word singularity can mean anything you like, if you apply it in different contexts, but the singularity has no existence outside minds, right?

A singularity is simply a discernment.

I’m not going to try to bullshit you about “the singularity”

Where does something begin with infinity?

Everywhere!!

Exactly!!
Therefore the one and the nil, are human symbols, referring to something/nothing, representing abstractions in the mind.

One does not exist outside the human brain.
The word is only meaningful within minds trained in the same semiotics, and can refer to phenomena or to nothing but emotions, or other abstractions.

Your goal,. if you truly wish to be a philosopher, and are honestly interested in the world, is to connect your words tor noumena that refer to phenomena outside your skull.
Because to do nothing more than to create clever, self-referential, loopiness, solipsistic crap you then try to validate by convincing others as desperate as you are for finality, is to indulge in self-pleasuring…masturbation.
Haven’t you spent enough time jerking-off?

How old are you?

One is a quantity. It exists where ever the quantity exists. How many of you are there?

One can be a nil…

Nil is a placeholder derived from memory and imagination…

I have no banana in my fruit bowl is a placeholder…

Nil is always a placeholder, and as such is a certain type of one.

You seem to think philosophy is about us not having brains, or thoughts…

As if we don’t exist.

The idea that this is ultimate truth, the definition of philosophy is laughable.

You haven’t figured this part out yet!!!

We exist!!!

We have as much investment in our minds as anything objective, we are objective !!

Exists = dynamic interaction of patterns. your banana is not a thing…it is a congruity of patterns in constant interactivity.
Not static. When you refer to the same banana, whether you stick it in one orifice or another, you are referring to a slightly altered banana, not the absolutely same one…same in this case indicated causality, held together by memory.
Paste manifests as presence…the mind holds the causality chain in memory, as code. It recognizes the banana s being part of the same continuum…but what if you leave the room and reenter…are you sure it’s the same banana.
it depends on circumstances. Is there another in the room, is there a similarities between your previous abstraction of banana and your more recent noes…is there reason to believe the banana has been tampered with, replaced?

The banana exists as phenomenon, congruity of patterns the brain then interpret in the way that it does. it is real.
But a plastic banana made to look like a banana, is not actually banana…it lacks the nutritional values, the qualities, the patterns, it is a copy.

Even seemingly unchanging elements, like steel is active…if you return to the same wall after a million tears, having never touched it, placed it in a place where nobody could tamper with it, you will find ti changed…the accumulated effects of its continuous interactivity made evident to you.

Exists == Affects upon affects (aka “energy”).

I already said this to you , but not forcefully.

Everything in existence is a matter of acuity.

Telescopes, microscopes and you!

You are not a telescoping person or a microscoping person, you are in between, and whatever you see in between (acuity) is a real solid that you really use, your acuity is a balance.

Stop trying to confuse yourself.

You do actually sit down and eat food (a singularity)

Stop trying so hard to say shit you know is true, doesn’t even exist.

That’s called contradicting yourself.

You have that right , but it’s not philosophy

Ha!!
You speaking of confusion is fabulous.

I’ve skimmed through some of your posts…one confused angry rant after another.
But you’re not my target. Through you I respond to the multiplicity of cynical, nihilistic banter on ILP, pretending to be profound insights.

I will await evidence of this fabled absolute, the one…not with words, sentences, with actions, - show me this immutable, indivisible, independent, whole, perfect, one
Don’t force em to contradict it by lowering myself to your level and declaring an absent absolute.
Show me god, for god’s sake before you attack my agnosticism as being no more religious.

It is you who propose absolutes, giving them names like one, god, thing, truth…love…self…show me so that I may be converted to Nihilism.

“There is a god”
“There is an absolute”

That’s philosophy?
I don’t propose anything. I know abstraction are interpretation so phenomena, in my head…useful but also dangerous when sheltering allows idiocy to go off into flights of fancy, into jerking-off cults.
I know words, are art forms…tools. Tried and tested over time, and now reduced to toys, for masturbating girls and boys, desperate to stand out, to pleasure themselves, to escape the authority of natural order…to liberate themselves from the past. To free themselves from a limiting order, a determined past, and declare themselves gods, philosophers, brilliant fabulous stars.

Tools not toys.

I don’t believe in God Crow.

You obviously haven’t read much of me.

You actually have the stupidity to tell me to show you an absolute without using reference, yet you’re allowed to use it to debate me?!?!?!

Dude, you’re a fucking asshole and idiot